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Old 02-19-2013, 02:54 PM   #21
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Well ! I learnt to drive at the age of 24 and ride a bike at 15.. My wife thinks I drive like an old man.. On the motorcycle I feel more in control. The car just feels like a big box with an underpowered engine and brakes are overrated. Probably just my POS car ..
I have the fear of being trapped in a crashed car.
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:30 PM   #22
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Well ! I learnt to drive at the age of 24 and ride a bike at 15.. My wife thinks I drive like an old man.. On the motorcycle I feel more in control. The car just feels like a big box with an underpowered engine and brakes are overrated. Probably just my POS car ..
I have the fear of being trapped in a crashed car.
You drive like and old Asian women.
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:39 PM   #23
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:47 PM   #24
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Being rear ended at a complete stop is hard to avoid
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:53 PM   #25
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yah it does. I've been wanting to start a thread on similar subject, Race lines while driving. I Apex every turn as much as possible. Driving a trailer or driving a geo. square turns aren't allowed around me.
Same.
On a road trip back from St Louis we had a packed FS chevy pulling a camper... coming down some backroads I was signaling to change lanes so I could apex across both of them. Took quite a while before the passenger called me on it.
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Old 02-19-2013, 07:30 PM   #27
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No shame. I got t-boned at a totally blind intersection in Casper, WY. Then there is Tunis, Tunisia: hit on average every six months: rear ended, side swiped, crunched while parking, you name it. In every case: I was not moving. I won't even talk about Cairo.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:42 PM   #28
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Riding definitely gave me the hindsight to avoid a few near hits this last month. Makes a person sharp!
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:49 PM   #29
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It's all relative. When riding, all other cagers suddenly get worse. So, I feel like a better driver.
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:21 AM   #30
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Volfy---

No shame. I got t-boned at a totally blind intersection in Casper, WY. Then there is Tunis, Tunisia: hit on average every six months: rear ended, side swiped, crunched while parking, you name it. In every case: I was not moving. I won't even talk about Cairo.
I don't feel too terrible then... It go so bad for me for a while there, coworkers joked that I should buy an F-350 dually and strap used tires all around it (like they do at boat docks).
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:45 AM   #31
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I might disagree.

I read an article once that talked about how riding a motorcycle just exaggerates your current habits.
If you drive cautious, you'll ride more cautious. If you drive like a bat out of , you'll ride even worse.
E.G. You THINK about cutting between cars? You'll do it on a bike.
It's possible to ride like a bat out of while being cautious, I think.



I think I read a study that said motorcycle riding can lead to improved cognitive abilities.
Ride or die.
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I agree with OP's post. Riding makes a better driver. You tend to be more cautious..
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Being rear ended at a complete stop is hard to avoid
Not if you stay in gear, keep an eye on your 6, and always look for an escape route.
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Old 02-20-2013, 12:38 PM   #34
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Not if you stay in gear, keep an eye on your 6, and always look for an escape route.
Really?!

You actually think you can watch your rearview mirror for somebody about nail your ... and then react fast enough to move out of the way?

The times I got rear-ended, I saw it in my rear mirror and had just enough time to say "OH, SH..." and brace for the impact.

Then again, I am feeble and can't speak for the more agile amongst us... like vampires, werewolves and batman.
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Really?!

You actually think you can watch your rearview mirror for somebody about nail your ... and then react fast enough to move out of the way?

The times I got rear-ended, I saw it in my rear mirror and had just enough time to say "OH, SH..." and brace for the impact.

Then again, I am feeble and can't speak for the more agile amongst us... like vampires, werewolves and batman.
Thank it's never happened to me but I always expect it and make my stops on the lane boundaries
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Really?!

You actually think you can watch your rearview mirror for somebody about nail your ... and then react fast enough to move out of the way?

The times I got rear-ended, I saw it in my rear mirror and had just enough time to say "OH, SH..." and brace for the impact.

Then again, I am feeble and can't speak for the more agile amongst us... like vampires, werewolves and batman.
Here it is. You didnt have time. Time is relative to preparation and awareness.

Im not saying they can all be avoided. I stay left or right of a vehicle that is in front of me. I keep an eye on the rear since I perceive nearly 0 threat from the front. I stay in gear and watch their approaching speeds. It has saved my before. Once a car is behind me and has come to a complete stop I let my guard down some and return my attention to my front and the light. Always keep an eye on your escape route. I pay attention to where other drivers are looking in an attempt to guess what they are thinking they are going to do. Cant say how many head turns clued me in to a quick lane change that would have otherwise gotten me in a bind.It has served me time and time again. I have never been hit and I have never hit anyone. I am of course knocking on wood as I type this.
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I fit your profile to a Tee.

I must be a bad driver, because I couldn't figure out how to avoid somebody from rear-ending me, when I was stopped behind another car on a dedicated left-turning lane, with my foot on the brake and my left signal blinking.

Another time, I was following an old pickup truck on the inside lane of a 4 lane divided hwy, when all of a sudden a car on the outside lane whip across to the center median - right in front of the pickup. The pickup screeched to a halt. I screeched to a halt. The minivan behind me... didn't. Pounded my and pushed my car into the pickup truck. Clearly, I was a terrible driver for not avoiding that one!

I can go on and on... but I won't. I have no excuse for my inability to avoid any of the multitude of accidents, none of which were my fault, and several of the drivers that caused them were issued citations by the attending police officers. I should've broken the time space continuum and reach across to yank the cellphones out of the offending drivers' hands. Or better... interrupted their parents' night of passion, before the glint in her eyes turned into a traffic montrocity years down the road.

I should be ashamed for even posting this reply.
couldn't of said it better myself, I'm sorry blue but he has a 100% legit point.
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Here it is. You didnt have time. Time is relative to preparation and awareness.

Im not saying they can all be avoided. I stay left or right of a vehicle that is in front of me. I keep an eye on the rear since I perceive nearly 0 threat from the front. I stay in gear and watch their approaching speeds. It has saved my before. Once a car is behind me and has come to a complete stop I let my guard down some and return my attention to my front and the light. Always keep an eye on your escape route. I pay attention to where other drivers are looking in an attempt to guess what they are thinking they are going to do. Cant say how many head turns clued me in to a quick lane change that would have otherwise gotten me in a bind.It has served me time and time again. I have never been hit and I have never hit anyone. I am of course knocking on wood as I type this.
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If you have never been rear-ended, you have no idea just how quick that happens. Yeah, you can watch for cars closing in from the rear, but at what point do you decide the car ain't gonna stop? I will tell you that the moment you realize that the car behind is NOT going to stop, the impact is already imminent and there ain't nothing you can do about it.

Yes, when you are rolling on 2 wheels, you can position yourself one way or another, but hugging the next lane too closely present yourself to hazards from the adjacent lane. Thankfully, the times I've been rear-ended have all been in my cages, with which I had little leeway in lane positioning.

Yes, being defensive and constantly on alert is a must, especially on 2. But brother... sometimes it just ain't up to you.
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It's more of a pointing in the escape direction than hugging the lane. I am speaking from my own experience and my proven ability to pull this maneuver off. I cut decent lights and can cover 0-60' in about 1.52 seconds at the track. I'm not too bad on the street either as long as I can hook. If its even sketchy looking I will prepare to jump to a safer spot
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