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Old 02-18-2013, 02:39 PM   #21
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So from what I've gathered so far, don't expect much life out of the S20's. Maybe I'll give the new pp3's a try.
Is there a new spot for PP3 (Pearland Starbucks @ Target Shopping Center)? Sounds like peeps peddle tires there. May be I oughta check it out too.
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For you, get the bt003rs. Done.

Ride track on them "good grip" and street.
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I've have a bt-016 on the front and bt-021 on the rear..very happy with this set up. Have yet to break the rear loose and looks hardly worn even after about 1000 miles.
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I'm still running Pilot Power 2ct's never had an issue....
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If you like the bt016's, you may want to consider 016 front/023 rear. Enough grip for street/upper L2 track pace and the rear will last about as long as the front. The pilot power 3's look pretty nice too though but I have not tried them yet.
BT023's made my Speed Triple feel a bit more sluggish and resistant to leaning over. It took some miles before I was comfortable with the bike again. This was coming from Pilot Sports. Great grip and mileage, just wasn't as eager to fall into the turns.
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I've had the new Michelin Pilot Power 3 in stock for several weeks and have sold a total of 0. This is very suprising based on the popularity of the Michelin Pilot Power and 2CT. Tire technology always improves, this should be a better tire than the 2CT but there is no interest. What's up?
They are pricey from what I remember, so maybe that's it?
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I try new setups just about every time I get a tire changed out...I will still ride out regardless. They all grip good enough for me, some just grip a bit better than others. It's all in your head

People say the stock 016's are ....they're not great, but I still put them through the paces for the first 3k or so miles...

S20's are pretty confidence inspiring. I love the grip and feel of them. Rear won't last for . 1800 miles for me....

I ran with a Q2 front and PR3 rear, the PR3 was a waste of money for me. Would have been better off with a BT-016.

Went back to S20's again...love em...but rear doesn't last me long.

Have an S20 front Dunlop GP rear takeoff right now....not sure what rear tire I will get next...

Starting to think I will get better money and enjoyment out of race tires riding at the track!! Too much BS going on street riding..popo, inattentive cagers, etc...I will never give up the Hill Country trips though....

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BT023's made my Speed Triple feel a bit more sluggish and resistant to leaning over. It took some miles before I was comfortable with the bike again. This was coming from Pilot Sports. Great grip and mileage, just wasn't as eager to fall into the turns.
I run the manufacturer's recommended size BT-016 front/BT-023 rear combo and don't have any trouble dragging the peg feelers.
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I'm hoping there will be introductory specials for the T30. I've got some good use out of BT-023s front and rear so I'm looking forward to their replacement.
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I've had the new Michelin Pilot Power 3 in stock for several weeks and have sold a total of 0. This is very suprising based on the popularity of the Michelin Pilot Power and 2CT. Tire technology always improves, this should be a better tire than the 2CT but there is no interest. What's up?
Yes, I think the price is an issue. Not that your price is bad, but I bet it's hard to spend $300+ for a set of PR3 when wayyy sportier S20s and Q2s are selling like hotcakes at $199/pr, especially since this is mostly a sportbike forum.

The ContiMotion at darn near half the price of PR3 makes a strong case too. Still, I think the PR3 is a phenomenal tire and under appreciated by the sportbike crowd.
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The S20 is a awesome tire. The secret to getting the mileage out of the S20 is air pressure. With the new reactive carcass design, it enables you to run higher pressures to cut down on overall heat generation without sacrificing grip. I personally used to lower my pressured down for the "spirited" rides like 32 front and rear cold. Truth is on the S20 you can run the up to 36-38 psi front and rear cold. They will take a bit longer to warm up but the grip is great once warmed up. If you are strictly commuting 38 front and 40 rear will help get more mileage. 42 rear if you are a heavier guy (greater than 200 lbs). or you have a passenger.
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The S20 is a awesome tire. The secret to getting the mileage out of the S20 is air pressure. With the new reactive carcass design, it enables you to run higher pressures to cut down on overall heat generation without sacrificing grip. I personally used to lower my pressured down for the "spirited" rides like 32 front and rear cold. Truth is on the S20 you can run the up to 36-38 psi front and rear cold. They will take a bit longer to warm up but the grip is great once warmed up. If you are strictly commuting 38 front and 40 rear will help get more mileage. 42 rear if you are a heavier guy (greater than 200 lbs). or you have a passenger.
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I actually did run 36 cold on the S20's. Thats what Tony Ta recommended. I also check pressure before every ride. Still only got 1800 out of the rear. Could have something to do with all the high speed wheelies though
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did u get the Jan/Feb Tire shoot out edition of Sport Rider? I saved this particular edition because it showcased the tires (and alot of tire related info )so well.

I can do a full scan of the article or a few select tires if you know which ones you'd like to compare They did a full comparison/analysis with in depth info, graphs, etc.
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did u get the Jan/Feb Tire shoot out edition of Sport Rider? I saved this particular edition because it showcased the tires (and alot of tire related info )so well.

I can do a full scan of the article or a few select tires if you know which ones you'd like to compare They did a full comparison/analysis with in depth info, graphs, etc.
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I actually did run 36 cold on the S20's. Thats what Tony Ta recommended. I also check pressure before every ride. Still only got 1800 out of the rear. Could have something to do with all the high speed wheelies though
Try 40 psi. cold. It will help for sure. 1800 miles is way too low IMHO. 2500ish for that style of riding would be acceptable. I have guys that commute that get 4K-5K miles from the S20. You might look at your suspension as well.
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I've had the new Michelin Pilot Power 3 in stock for several weeks and have sold a total of 0. This is very suprising based on the popularity of the Michelin Pilot Power and 2CT. Tire technology always improves, this should be a better tire than the 2CT but there is no interest. What's up?

I need a set for my repsol. Pm me a price. Thanks!
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Try 40 psi. cold. It will help for sure. 1800 miles is way too low IMHO. 2500ish for that style of riding would be acceptable. I have guys that commute that get 4K-5K miles from the S20. You might look at your suspension as well.
I wish I could get that many miles out of them. I don't commute, so that won't be happening. Anyways, I could try the 40 cold to see how it feels and go from there. What about for the front? 36 still?
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