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Old 02-06-2013, 06:59 AM   #1
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I guess my baby's too retarded

My ZX6E doesn't like 100 octane. On Sunday, I bought some 100 octane fuel from the pumps at MSRH on Sunday out of curiosity. My bike doesn't idle as well and feels a little rough. I guess my ignition advance (stock) is too retarded to burn that slow burning fuel. That's OK though, I'd rather stay with 93 octane Super Unleaded at $3.75 a gallon, in lieu of tuning my bike to need 100 octane at $8.75 a gallon.
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:12 AM   #2
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You know what curiosity did to the cat, right?
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Booom!! Meeeeeoooow

I would drain it and add regular fuel...
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:28 AM   #4
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I would stay curious and add a nitrous system
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You have no reason to be using that fuel on with stock compression stock motor. None at all. You want the lowest octane your bike can take without detonation.
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even though the motor didnt need the extra octane, I've never seen a stock one run bad with it, usually its just a waste of money on a stocker .
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Old 02-06-2013, 08:34 AM   #8
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why even 93?
Good question. Haven't tried less than 93. Compression is 12:1. Maybe I'll drop it to 89 and listen for detonation. Just don't care to poke holes in my pistons.
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First you will be more than fine at 89 or 87. Second you wont hear detonation. No need at all to worry about holes in your pistons.
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Want to know a dirty little secret of the petrochem industry?

Most fuel at the pumps rated at midgrade is actually the higher grade. It costs too much to ship it in two different tanks.
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Most fuel at the pumps rated at midgrade is actually the higher grade. It costs too much to ship it in two different tanks.
Good to know.
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Want to know a dirty little secret of the petrochem industry?

Most fuel at the pumps rated at midgrade is actually the higher grade. It costs too much to ship it in two different tanks.
2 grades. Regular and premium. Mid grade is blended at the pump.

I was an environmental tester, and calibrated pumps for a year.


I have never used more than 87 in a bike. Mine were all factory stock engines, though. (slip on only)
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Old 02-06-2013, 11:31 AM   #13
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To lower the octane of the gas that's already in you tank from 100 to 93, about a 7% drop, in a tank holding 4 gallons, that comes out to about 3 quarts, so just add 1 quart sugar, 1 quart NyQuil, and 1 quart water. It'll bring that octane right down.
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Old 02-06-2013, 12:27 PM   #14
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Lol, the above advise reminds me of a helpful pic i saw on 4 chan. it said how to grow crystals with household materials. it then gave directions on producing mustard gas and told you to take deep breaths and blow onto the mixture.

internet disclaimer. dont do the above posted advice, lol
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Old 02-06-2013, 12:31 PM   #15
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anything above "87" in your bike, is a waste. It was BUILT to run on 87. Check your manual.
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I guess my baby's too retarded

Somewhat true, as most 600/750s are tuned from Factory to run on 87. Some 1000s are made for 93. If I remember correctly, Suzuki was this way for the K7 1000 I had, and a few 600s I knew about.

If you don't tune the computer for higher octane "race gas", it does no good. And yes, can hurt your performance like you experienced.
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To lower the octane of the gas that's already in you tank from 100 to 93, about a 7% drop, in a tank holding 4 gallons, that comes out to about 3 quarts, so just add 1 quart sugar, 1 quart NyQuil, and 1 quart water. It'll bring that octane right down.
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Lol, the above advise reminds me of a helpful pic i saw on 4 chan. it said how to grow crystals with household materials. it then gave directions on producing mustard gas and told you to take deep breaths and blow onto the mixture.

internet disclaimer. dont do the above posted advice, lol
You guys a crackin me up.

I want the mustard gas recipe too..
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:46 PM   #19
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I guess my baby's too retarded

My bike requires at least 91. Lame.
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Had some racing fuel in my 93 Ducati because it sat for a while and had a of a time burning that off. The racing fuel isn't as volatile.
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