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Old 02-26-2007, 04:05 PM   #41
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So is this what your avatar is about? Quang Duc was a Buddhist monk that burned himself in protest to the Vietnam war.

Either that or you just like RATM.


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I would venture to guess that would be specific to the non-denominational church. I'm sure some use the NIV while others use King James....again, relative to the church...
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Yes, let's not compare or discuss religions because people are too irrational to talk about it unemotionally.
To compare is to attempt to uplift one while ostracizing the other and again, I will not participate. Now as far as discussing, I don't know enough about Buddism to speak intelligently about it nor do I truly care to study it. Should you choose to do so, more power to you but I feel that my relationship with is all that I'll ever need. The of Moses btw...
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Yes, let's not compare or discuss religions because people are too irrational to talk about it unemotionally.
Plus your right, religious discussions tend to leave the realm of rationality...:eh:
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So is this what your avatar is about? Quang Duc was a Buddhist monk that burned himself in protest to the Vietnam war.

Either that or you just like RATM.


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I have that as my desktop and a poster of it on my wall too. It's my favorite picture, probably the most powerful image that i've seen. Big RATM fan too.
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To compare is to attempt to uplift one while ostracizing the other and again, I will not participate. Now as far as discussing, I don't know enough about Buddism to speak intelligently about it nor do I truly care to study it. Should you choose to do so, more power to you but I feel that my relationship with is all that I'll ever need. The of Moses btw...
sigh..no christians want to talk about their beliefs..where's ramius?

I don't know a whole lot about Buddhism either, which is why I thought I'd make a thread to help me, as well as anyone else who is interested, learn about Buddhism, or christianity, but it seems that no one wants to waste their time on eastern philosophy or even their own.
Would you rather talk about evolution and creationism? I don't see what the big difference is, in that you'll still be "comparing" them and they're still science/reason/understanding vs. Christianity.
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Plus your right, religious discussions tend to leave the realm of rationality...:eh:
I was thinking you would be looking forward to discussing it, but I understand if you don't, like I said on the first post of this thread.

I imagine it would be hard for a christian to even give a thorough, skeptical look at some of these things, since doubting christianity at all, even allowing yourself the possibility it might not be real, is the same as saying you THINK it's real, and not that you KNOW jesus christ is your lord, or whatever else, and hence you will burn in and all of that(unless you don't take that part seriously).
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sigh..no christians want to talk about their beliefs..where's ramius?

I don't know a whole lot about Buddhism either, which is why I thought I'd make a thread to help me, as well as anyone else who is interested, learn about Buddhism, or christianity, but it seems that no one wants to waste their time on eastern philosophy or even their own.
Would you rather talk about evolution and creationism? I don't see what the big difference is, in that you'll still be "comparing" them and they're still science/reason/understanding vs. Christianity.
Ok so tell me this, how is it that one can make a plausible argument for Christianity in the eyes of someone who holds the Bible as invalid literature? You must first, have atleast a mild belief that there is some possibility in there being truth in the Bible to have such a discussion.
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Ok so tell me this, how is it that one can make a plausible argument for Christianity in the eyes of someone who holds the Bible as invalid literature? You must first, have atleast a mild belief that there is some possibility in there being truth in the Bible to have such a discussion.
I'm not questioning whether it's real or not, who wrote it. I'm questioning the content of the Bible, the lessons it teaches, compared to Buddhism. The effects it has had on society, compared with Buddhism or any other religion, really, if that would suit everyone better? I just prefer to contrast Christianity with buddhism because buddhism is what i'm interested in.
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I was thinking you would be looking forward to discussing it, but I understand if you don't, like I said on the first post of this thread.

I imagine it would be hard for a christian to even give a thorough, skeptical look at some of these things, since doubting christianity at all, even allowing yourself the possibility it might not be real, is the same as saying you THINK it's real, and not that you KNOW jesus christ is your lord, or whatever else, and hence you will burn in and all of that(unless you don't take that part seriously).
Nah not Christianity v. Buddism. I don't feel right trampling on someones else's religious beliefs...believe what you will, I just hope and pray you find truth somewhere in your endeavours. It is not wrong to doubt, it is seen throughout an entire book of the Bible by someone who was regarded atleast within the text as an indivudual who held as a holy individual (see the book of Lamentations). To question is not wrong, but is only human. You just must not completely lose faith and if you do, you always are welcome back into the Lord.
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I'm not questioning whether it's real or not, who wrote it. I'm questioning the content of the Bible, the lessons it teaches, compared to Buddhism. The effects it has had on society, compared with Buddhism or any other religion, really, if that would suit everyone better? I just prefer to contrast Christianity with buddhism because buddhism is what i'm interested in.
Understood. I however, used the word invalid
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Portions of truth can be found in many religious texts. It is when you get a group of mindless creatures together and start interpreting these texts that we end up with a bunch of non sense.
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Nah not Christianity v. Buddism. I don't feel right trampling on someones else's religious beliefs...believe what you will, I just hope and pray you find truth somewhere in your endeavours. It is not wrong to doubt, it is seen throughout an entire book of the Bible by someone who was regarded atleast within the text as an indivudual who held as a holy individual (see the book of Lamentations). To question is not wrong, but is only human. You just must not completely lose faith and if you do, you always are welcome back into the Lord.
I guess in a way I am trampling something...faith. I look at this as I would any other discussion, but I realize for the faithful it's something totally different, but again I expected different from you due to your willingness to discuss creationism and evolution.

This sort of mindset, of a watching over us, judging us, it just seems to manipulative and based on the origins of religion, and religious/superstitious thinking itself(half baked explanations of what's not understood), I think there's good reason to doubt something that is so powerful, so widespread, and so unwilling to explain itself, but again I understand that you can't doubt this until you let yourself.
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Portions of truth can be found in many religious texts. It is when you get a group of mindless creatures together and start interpreting these texts that we end up with a bunch of non sense.
There is no mindlessness in Buddhism.
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thats ur opinion again, just like u said the christian faith speaks of death and such its all an opinion and who/how u look at it
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I have studied many religions. I just like reading all the crazy stuff and trying to find reason, logic and truth in any of them.
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thats ur opinion again, just like u said the christian faith speaks of death and such its all an opinion and who/how u look at it
Well, Buddhism is practically centered on mindfulness and understanding, so i think it could be said that it is not mindless.
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I have studied many religions. I just like reading all the crazy stuff and trying to find reason, logic and truth in any of them.
Yes, but how much logic/reason/truth can you find in the Bible? The only place I think there might be some wisdom is Jesus, but that's only a small part of the bible.
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I guess in a way I am trampling something...faith. I look at this as I would any other discussion, but I realize for the faithful it's something totally different, but again I expected different from you due to your willingness to discuss creationism and evolution.

This sort of mindset, of a watching over us, judging us, it just seems to manipulative and based on the origins of religion, and religious/superstitious thinking itself(half baked explanations of what's not understood), I think there's good reason to doubt something that is so powerful, so widespread, and so unwilling to explain itself, but again I understand that you can't doubt this until you let yourself.
Your a-subtle allusions to my alledged inability to conduct such a discussion due to my supposed inability to question my faith are hilarious :laughing6 . I just said not two posts ago that it is not wrong to question and I used to question all the time but due to certain events and other signicant happenings in my life allow me to exclude the possibility of chance being contributing factor. Creationism vs. Evolution is not religion versus religion but rather perspective and faith versus another perspective and incidently faith...I do not fear having the discussion but as I said before, I am uneasy downplaying someone else's faith in the name of comparing & contrasting. It is a simple matter of mutual respect, I don't personally see Buddism, given what I do know about it as a viable candidate for worship. I will say however that many of the principles observed and exercised by buddists' (sp?) are extremely beneficial to the overall good of mankind. It's just not the right path in my personal opinion. But as said in the Bible, the path to righteousness is a long winding road with many pitfalls with which to stumble & fall.
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