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Old 01-30-2013, 12:05 PM   #141
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As far as my input on this....

Noobs should learn at the track if they want to do aggressive street riding. Gotta crawl before you walk. The track is safer and more forgiving, street is not. You run wide on the street and you're done.

Intermediate riders can be taught how to ride aggressive on the street from the more experienced guys, but the track is a better environment IMO.




Anyone is welcome to start a new thread for the street line debate....
I disagree on the basis that at the track they dont wanna teach you to use your REAR brake.

Anyone is welcome to start a thread aboyt brakes.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:07 PM   #142
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Here is what I think.
Noobs get overwhelmed by the information overload. There is going to be all sorts of information coming from all sorts of "experienced" riders. The information thrown at the noobs will vary from person to person.

It is best to give one small piece of info and then go practice what was preached... Then move on to the next lesson and practice that.

I don't believe information overloaded from a variety of sources is really going to help. Just speaking from my experience and what I gathered from talking to noobs one on one.

The intent here to help a noob is brilliant though.
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The biggest subject (IMHO) that we should bring out is the risks involved with riding on fast rides/groups and what to expect out there on the twists (weather/risks/cops/etc) and how to address these situations as they arise in the sight if your visor

This is not about body position nor braking techniques, its about keeping our novice riders out of ditches, by creating consciousness on noobs and make them see we care about our riders and are here for the good input

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Guys you know I'll be happy to help. I could provide some good visuals, slightly used gear, of what happens when you do meet the pavement. Lol

Another book I think all sport bike riders should read, especially street riders is,

"Sport Riding Techniques", by Nick Ienatsch

Is a little easier read than Twist of the Wrist and also covers potential disastrous street riding scenarios in the twisties as well as the city.

Might be able to find it in pdf format on the web.
I like this idea as well. Get first hand accounts from riders that have gone down and lived to tell about it. What circumstances lead up to it and if it was avoidable or not. Maybe some of their stories can prevent future riders from suffering the same fate.
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I disagree on the basis that at the track they dont wanna teach you to use your REAR brake.

Anyone is welcome to start a thread aboyt brakes.
REALLY????
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I like this idea as well. Get first hand accounts from riders that have gone down and lived to tell about it. What circumstances lead up to it and if it was avoidable or not. Maybe some of their stories can prevent future riders from suffering the same fate.
I believe the MOST common reason riders go in the ditch is "Eye Fixation" I've had that problem real bad, never went in the ditch but off the road a coupe times. I did a few track days, its gotten alot better, and an ongoing process to overcome. For other riders, they may have other issues. But the track will train your eyes to look through the turn.
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How about suggestions on the name for these meets?
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what i'm trying to say is you can't measure experience in a lenght of time but on seat time..
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Rear brakes are essential on the street.

This aint my first rodeo with houstonians and rear brakes either.
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How about suggestions on the name for these meets?
How about " Rider Technique's 101"
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I believe the MOST common reason riders go in the ditch is "Eye Fixation" I've had that problem real bad, never went in the ditch but off the road a coupe times. I did a few track days, its gotten alot better, and an ongoing process to overcome. For other riders, they may have other issues. But the track will train your eyes to look through the turn.
Yup, I catch my self target fixating too, especially when a big farm truck is coming my way. I have gotten better about looking through the turn and letting my bike follow my head.
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Rear brakes are essential on the street.

This aint my first rodeo with houstonians and rear brakes either.
No !! And leave it up to YOU to bring it up AGAIN here!! This isn't MY first "rodeo" with dealing with YOU!!
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I disagree on the basis that at the track they dont wanna teach you to use your REAR brake.

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True dat, I use my rear brakes the most.
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True dat, I use my rear brakes the most.
I dont at all
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Calling out on all Experienced Riders that Participate on SMRs to combine our power..

Rear brake usage is an advanced technique, and can be information overload trying to teach that, among all other factors, to newer riders.
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Some trail brake with the front brake and some use the rear. Its Ok..
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Rear brake usage is an advanced technique, and can be information overload trying to teach that, among all other factors, to newer riders.
I try not use my rear brake at all, that means that I am traveling too quickly before the turn. I use the engine to brake whenever I can.
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