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Old 01-30-2013, 01:13 PM   #181
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I am pretty sure the OP's intention of this thread was mainly focussed to motorcycle riders, more specific..... sport bike riders, it was never his intention to start a debate on scooter rear braking techniques.

Here is a more suitable thread for you, feel free to say whatever you like on that thread and leave this one alone unless you can share some of your experience on riding sport bikes.

http://www.motohouston.com/forums/sh...81#post3475981
Says the guy who learned on scooter, bought in to the american motorcycle ideal, and forgets his roots to think hes hanging with the cool kids.

Frank, i have met you, i made amends. Your wife is hot. Hows the home front?

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Old 01-30-2013, 01:14 PM   #182
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How about Kpop! Mark would probly let us set something up!! Lots of room, room for parking too...we can get a bike inside for demonstrations...big screen!!
Phenomenal! I will seek some material for a try out meet, and will take you up on it for kpop
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Same applies to sport bikes! you can hit a corner at a higher entry speed but then you will have to get hard on the brakes which upsets the chasis of the bike! For your typical back road riding speed should not be your main goal, being smooth should be your main goal and with that speed will come gradually!
Applied this theory on the last 5 or 6 rides and sure enough when my entry speed in corners was smooth and consistant, the faster I seemed to go. It almost sounds counter-active; but it really does work.
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Old 01-30-2013, 01:18 PM   #184
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Old 01-30-2013, 01:18 PM   #185
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Applied this theory on the last 5 or 6 rides and sure enough when my entry speed in corners was smooth and consistant, the faster I seemed to go. It almost sounds counter-active; but it really does work.
Believe it or not i have followed more than a handful of riders and the biggest problem was that they were giving speed more priority than being smooth, when i tell them their problem and ask them to follow me, all of them were able to increase their speed through the corner right away.
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Some trail brake with the front brake and some use the rear. Its Ok..
Not supposed to use brakes on BORC rides
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Phenomenal! I will seek some material for a try out meet, and will take you up on it for kpop
Kpop it is then....... any word on time/date?
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The biggest subject (IMHO) that we should bring out is the risks involved with riding on fast rides/groups and what to expect out there on the twists (weather/risks/cops/etc) and how to address these situations as they arise in the sight if your visor

This is not about body position nor braking techniques, its about keeping our novice riders out of ditches, by creating consciousness on noobs and make them see we care about our riders and are here for the good input
What??? Please elaborate on the highlighted, are you trying to keep them from doing this or breeding new "fast" riders and showing them the ropes on how??

I don't get it
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Whoaaa. Said dirty stripper is a friend of mine. I dont hate based on profession. She in fact is more fun to hang with than most of the people at that party.

I brought her cuase i figured most everyone there would be lame... and i was right. No offense to those there.

And you are? Obviously someone who doesnt know me.
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And that was one bad party, I hope I can do one of those this year.
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Kpop it is then....... any word on time/date?
Looking forward to it..
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Says the guy who learned on scooter, bought in to the american motorcycle ideal, and forgets his roots to think hes hanging with the cool kids.

Frank, i have met you, i made amends. Your wife is hot. Hows the home front?
hahaha Yes i did ride a scooter......... back in Taiwan.......... when i was 10 years old there is no American ideal here, if that was the case you would more likely to see me on an American harley than a German sport bike fore sure.

Saying that scooter was my root is like saying "kindergarden" was my roots to my MBA degree I have no problem saying that "Yes" in Taiwan where millions of scooters are part of the transportation system, i rode one when i was not old enough to ride an actual motorcycle.......but it is ultimately where you go from "kindergarden" that really defines you and not the way around!

Yes, we have met and talked for a few minutes in person but that doesnt change my views...... and yeah i am a lucky guy to have a hot wife....... her twin sister will be visiting us next week
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Again frank, you learned on that scooter.

Again being on a sportbike is no different when riding the way you do no braking? Easy.
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Again frank, you learned on that scooter.

Again being on a sportbike is no different when riding the way you do no braking? Easy.
Wrong thread man, please start your own
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Again frank, you learned on that scooter.

Again being on a sportbike is no different when riding the way you do no braking? Easy.
I think the obvious difference is the speed and yes you are correct, i learned to ride scooters on a scooter but i learned to ride a motorcycle on a real motorcycle..... why do you think you are not required to get a license if you ride a scooter? But like OP says, this has nothing to do with his thread so lets be mature enough to respect that and only comment if related to this thread.
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But hey... I'm out. I don't want to derail yalls thread. I'm just amazed that a noob can get on the track for $70, with free boots and leathers and learn more in a day than years of street riding yet would rather take their chances on the street learning from people that might know what they're talking about. Or might not.

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why do you think you are not required to get a license if you ride a scooter?
NOT TRYING TO HATE ON YOU

But I thought it was required for scooter riders to have a license as well as some kind of endorsement now.
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yeah. I thought it'd be like riding with a condescending rossi.
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But I thought it was required for scooter riders to have a license as well as some kind of endorsement now.
last time i checked you were not required but that was more than 10 years ago, so you might be right!
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last time i checked you were not required but that was more than 10 years ago, so you might be right!
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yeah. I thought it'd be like riding with a condescending rossi.
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Just read through this thread. Phew.

I too think going to the track is the most helpful for acquire performance riding skills. But I also agree that a full-on Track Day can be somewhat intimidating for a noob. The barriers are mostly psychological, but barriers nevertheless. You can buy a brand new leather tracksuit for $200. Even if you could attend just ONE track day ($50-100), you'll learn more than months if not years of street riding. I know I did. After that initial TD investment, you can then digest, absorb and appreciate the lessons in your subsequent street riding.

What obed said about getting once shot at a corner, etc. is absolutely true. On the track, you hit the same corner over and over again, when the mistakes you made the last go-around is still fresh in your mind. Believe it or not, I find that commuting actually mimics this better than weekend rides. There I too hit the same corners day after day. No, repeat after 24 hrs is not as effective as repeat after 5 minutes, but it is still better than repeat after 7 days.
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