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Old 01-22-2013, 07:43 PM   #1
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Front End Dive

How do you guys deal with front end dive under heavy braking? I've got a V-Strom 1000, and under heavy braking it feels like my is going over my head. The only way I can minimize that feeling is to hug the tank.

Is it the same way on a motard, or is the riding position so different you guys don't have to deal with that? My front forks have about 7" of travel and only the preload is adjustable. No rebound or damping adjustment. I bumped up from .95kg/mm springs to 1.0kg/mm springs awhile back with no noticeable improvement.
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Revalve the rear shock and/or front forks.....


I had that problem with the stock suspension on my DRZ-SM after upgrading the brakes. I ended up raceteching the front forks

I will be doing the same on my XRR
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Springs help, but the key is the valving, especially on a long travel suspension.
If you'd like, give me a call tomorrow and I can go more in depth with you.
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Springs help, but the key is the valving, especially on a long travel suspension.
If you'd like, give me a call tomorrow and I can go more in depth with you.
Exactly what the BALD guy said


Patrick and the crew is who did my front forks....it was night and day...and Luke also rubbed my feet while I waited
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Start breaking with the rear (just a tad) then follow quickly with the front. This will lock-up the rear suspension some and will fight the front from diving. Scoot back on the seat when breaking, grab the tank with your knees don't put any weight on the bars.

Using a heavier fork fluid will stiffen the forks some but may make other things worse since the rear isn't compression adjustable either.

Non-adjustable suspension just sucks...
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Thanks for the input, guys. Patrick...I'll give you a call when I get a chance. May not be today, though.
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More rear brake.
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I use quite a bit of rear brake as it is. I'm afraid that if I use more the rear will lock up with all the weight transfer to the front. I'm not talking about general, event-free riding. I'm talking about having to shut it down quick, such as when some jackass pulls out in front of you.
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For panic breaking your pretty much stuck with the front forks bottoming out and then comes the endo. If I'm jacking with the rear on a panic break i will almost always lock it up, i dont even bother with it in a panic situation. If you can pull off proper rear breaking on a panic stop your just plain badass.

I don't think there is really much you can do for that except get a decent suspension and tune it right.
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OK...I guess that was a bad example. To me it seems (and I have to say, "seems" because I do not ride track) that braking at the last possible second before a turn is not the same as panic braking. Panic braking is pray for the best outcome, but the track scenario is planned and controlled, which is more along the lines of what I originally meant. I'll try to give Patrick a call tomorrow and talk about valving. A few months ago I found a place that will make fully adjustable caps & revalve, but they want a small fortune plus your left nut.
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