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Old 02-22-2007, 02:23 PM   #41
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look it could have happin to eny 1 of us on either end on ur bike or in a car, some people dont take the time to stop and look 3 times they only mite look once. i think they both made a dumb choice its not all her fault and its not all his. happins
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Old 02-22-2007, 02:32 PM   #42
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Hold on there. So, you're telling me a bike traveling at average speed will flip an SUV? I don't think so...

I feel bad that the kid lost his life, but always assigning blame on a driver that turns in front of a bike is not right. Speed is absolutely a factor. When we all turn left in front of oncoming traffic, we all make a split-second assessment of the oncoming traffic's speed. IF, he was speeding excessively, I'm not quite sure she deserves the "dumb fault" tag...
:laughing6 :laughing6 :laughing6 :laughing6 :laughing6 a bike going 180 wont flip it.. it was a woman driver.. she probably flipped out and over corrected..
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Old 02-22-2007, 02:33 PM   #43
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i personally dont think that a bike traveling at 100MPH would flip and SUV.....I think when she was turning, it got top heavy and when he hit her, it finished it off...
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I wish I could find some, but I've seen pics of cars that get TOTALLY demolished by bikes. Flipped over, cut in half, all smashed up.

I don't know anything about this case, but the bike doesn't look like it sustained damage that would be consistent with hitting a car at 100+ MPH. Probably a combo of top-heavy SUV, evasive manuevering, and collision.

Wasn't it a state senator or governor or somebody in south dakota that ran the stop sign and plowed the folks on a harley? It caddie was demolished
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A fatal collision involving an SUV and a motorcycle occurred Tuesday evening at Texas Avenue and Francis. The motorcycle was north on Texas Avenue when it struck the SUV, causing it to flip onto its side. The occupant of the SUV was taken to St. Joseph's hospital and is in fair condition. The driver of the motorcycle, sophomore general studies major Michael Weber, was killed in the accident.
so you are going to blame the suv fliping on the bike.. that bike is not that messed up.. i'd say he was going 45-55 maybe less.
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I wish I could find some, but I've seen pics of cars that get TOTALLY demolished by bikes. Flipped over, cut in half, all smashed up.

I don't know anything about this case, but the bike doesn't look like it sustained damage that would be consistent with hitting a car at 100+ MPH. Probably a combo of top-heavy SUV, evasive manuevering, and collision.

Wasn't it a state senator or governor or somebody in south dakota that ran the stop sign and plowed the folks on a harley? It caddie was demolished
i have seen alot of that.. but not flipping... and at that they were very highspeed crashes. as you said that damage on the bike and the suv (look at the passenger side rear door which is where the impact was.) doesnt look like he was going very fast...

totally deserves the "dumb " label IMO
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RIP kid.
stuff like this always scares me....one of my biggest fears is a car turning in front of me. how do you avoid dying in a situation like that? you really can't, can you?
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Old 02-22-2007, 02:53 PM   #49
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stuff like this always scares me....one of my biggest fears is a car turning in front of me. how do you avoid dying in a situation like that? you really can't, can you?
dont ride in a cars blind spot.. or lay it down and hope you dont go under the car...
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Old 02-22-2007, 02:55 PM   #50
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stuff like this always scares me....one of my biggest fears is a car turning in front of me. how do you avoid dying in a situation like that? you really can't, can you?
This has happened to me TWICE in bryan where I work. First time and old lady turned left in front of me, my FZR hit directly on her rear wheel sending me over the car and into the street. The second time, same exact senario, this time i got onto the brakes of my new gixxer and scrubbed off some speed but still hit the front quarter panel of the car. Having been in the same wreck before I knew to jump as hard as I could right before impact in hopes of clearing the car and bike. I did and flew a long way, flipping through the air.
Both wrecks gave me almost no reaction time, and thanks to wearing gloves, jacket and helmet, I walked away from both with some 'minor' injuries.

The difference between my wrecks and his was that he hit the center of a tall SUV and had nowhere to go. It really shakes you up to think about it.
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I'll add to the sentiment that I am not trying to diminish this young man's life w/ my earlier post at all.

All I was pointing out is that when you read the phrase (in a newspaper no less) "car turned in front of bike" you cannot automatically put all blame on the driver and absolve the rider of wrong doing...
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I'll add to the sentiment that I am not trying to diminish this young man's life w/ my earlier post at all.

All I was pointing out is that when you read the phrase (in a newspaper no less) "car turned in front of bike" you cannot automatically put all blame on the driver and absolve the rider of wrong doing...
roger.. but i think in this case it was all the suv drivers fault.

(edited to ad SUV in there in case anyone was in doubt of which driver i was talking about)
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:26 PM   #53
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^^^what he said. young, female...probably on the phone or something.
most of the wrecks or almost wrecks i've had were due to young girls (most of them with a cellphone or ipod in their hand). I was t-boned by a girl talking on a phone while driving....she drove right into me and didnt even see my car until a second before impact ( i know because i WATCHED her face as she drove right into me... i felt so helpless because i couldnt really go anywhere and she wasnt even looking at the road in front of her!!!!!). a girl ran me up onto a curb once too because she ran a stop sign and i had to swerve to avoid her because my brakes wouldnt have stopped me in time. i bet you the girl in the CS accident had some sort of "distraction" that contributed to the kid's death.
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^^^ see.. the women need to stay in cars.. no suv's or trucks for them. ... they do less damage that way. :laughing6







































jk ladies dont get mad. but seriously 99% of you need to learn how to drive.
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Ya i was about hundred yards away from that at raising canes chicken...the Texas A&M motorcycle club meets there every tuesday night...yall were talkin about speed, but from all of my accounts his helmet was on his helmet lock at time of accident. there is close to no traffic at this time in college station fyi

so in my opinion....helmet would of saved his life
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either way... RIP and i'm sorry for the family
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This has happened to me TWICE in bryan where I work. First time and old lady turned left in front of me, my FZR hit directly on her rear wheel sending me over the car and into the street. The second time, same exact senario, this time i got onto the brakes of my new gixxer and scrubbed off some speed but still hit the front quarter panel of the car. Having been in the same wreck before I knew to jump as hard as I could right before impact in hopes of clearing the car and bike. I did and flew a long way, flipping through the air.
Both wrecks gave me almost no reaction time, and thanks to wearing gloves, jacket and helmet, I walked away from both with some 'minor' injuries.

The difference between my wrecks and his was that he hit the center of a tall SUV and had nowhere to go. It really shakes you up to think about it.

On coop's second wreck the guy that hit him was middle eastern and he burned off from the scene and hid out in a shopping center up the street. Luckily some other biker that saw the wreck followed the guy and later led police to his "hideout." When the dud got arrested he kept saying, "Nt my fault! He hit Me! Not my fault!"
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i bet you the girl in the CS accident had some sort of "distraction" that contributed to the kid's death.
Like being Asian???

That's ok the Asian's gave us the Ninja. :notworthy
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Guys, let the issue of who hit who at what speed die.

Let him rest in peace.

I sure hope this girl recovers from this tragic incident - as for the guy's family, we can all only pray. It saddens me to say going to Kempner High School i have played against this guy's High School Foot Ball Team (Bush High School).

It does'nt help - he was an only child.

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