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Old 01-14-2013, 12:17 PM   #21
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Behind the scene one of the original owners of Fogo is the investor in Chama. And Fogo is now 100% American company, and the brazilians are out of it.
Correct! that is why i stopped going to Fogo, during the transition it was so funny to see the whole Fogo staff moved to Chama, even the valet parking guys!
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Old 01-14-2013, 12:27 PM   #22
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Correct! that is why i stopped going to Fogo, during the transition it was so funny to see the whole Fogo staff moved to Chama, even the valet parking guys!
Yeah, they offered better deals so Fogo staff could come to Chama. This is the reason Chama is suffering financially. At Fogo, a full time Gaucho and or server can make about 100K a year and mostly on tips. Chama had to offer them to make this much or more, and if not enough tip comes in, they have to pay out of their pocket. For them to maintain same quality of service, they have to use these high paid staff, and they can't even raise the price to Fogo's level bacause Fogo still holds the name prestige. Chama did take away a big chunk of business from Fogo, but even so, they are not making enough to make all the owners happy. Fogo, even with the reduced business due to competition, they still make around 8 mill. a year. More than double what Chama makes. Chama has to get Corporate accounts to make it happen.
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And this year, Texas de Brasil is opening in City Centre. This is gonna make the Churrascaria business competition even fiercer.
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Im in +1 buddy. Love this place. I tend to go often for lunch.
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Old 01-14-2013, 12:37 PM   #25
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Yes Eric, that was with the discount from the owner
Dinner -41.50 basic (includes salad bar)
Salad bar-19.50 (this is for the women, thats all they can have)
Lunch -26 or 21.50
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Yeah, they offered better deals so Fogo staff could come to Chama. This is the reason Chama is suffering financially. At Fogo, a full time Gaucho and or server can make about 100K a year and mostly on tips. Chama had to offer them to make this much or more, and if not enough tip comes in, they have to pay out of their pocket. For them to maintain same quality of service, they have to use these high paid staff, and they can't even raise the price to Fogo's level bacause Fogo still holds the name prestige. Chama did take away a big chunk of business from Fogo, but even so, they are not making enough to make all the owners happy. Fogo, even with the reduced business due to competition, they still make around 8 mill. a year. More than double what Chama makes. Chama has to get Corporate accounts to make it happen.
I heard they only made 3 last year. From time to time me and wife will go to Fogo just to compare and the last couple of times we noticed their quality was not like it was before Their clientele also seems to have changed a lot, before it used to be more upscale and now any guy wearing shorts and flip flops can get in lol
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Dinner -41.50 basic (includes salad bar)
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Lunch -26 or 21.50
for dinner, add the basic plus a drink +tax and tips will be more like $65
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Im in +1 buddy. Love this place. I tend to go often for lunch.
will be good to see you again now that we cant ride lol
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for dinner, add the basic plus a drink +tax and tips will be more like $65

With a large group they probably add the tip in as well. I wish I could go but it looks like I will be busy on saturday.
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I heard they only made 3 last year. From time to time me and wife will go to Fogo just to compare and the last couple of times we noticed their quality was not like it was before Their clientele also seems to have changed a lot, before it used to be more upscale and now any guy wearing shorts and flip flops can get in lol
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And this year, Texas de Brasil is opening in City Centre. This is gonna make the Churrascaria business competition even fiercer.
I think Texas de Brasil opened on westheimer 5 years ago but went out of business more than a few year ago, now the same place has been converted into an all organic restaurant.

We went to try their food 3-4 times, the first couple of times everything was bad, quality, selection and service, but we knew they were new and things needs to be sorted out, then we went back again and saw a few changes but not enough to really attract the usual Fogo clientele so we finally gave up on that place and stopped going.

Funny thing is that we have been to Texas de Brasil many times in Miami and their quality was excellent, dont know if they are the same owners but the one on westheimer was not on par with their Miami locations
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I think Texas de Brasil opened on westheimer 5 years ago but went out of business more than a few year ago, now the same place has been converted into an all organic restaurant.

We went to try their food 3-4 times, the first couple of times everything was bad, quality, selection and service, but we knew they were new and things needs to be sorted out, then we went back again and saw a few changes but not enough to really attract the usual Fogo clientele so we finally gave up on that place and stopped going.

Funny thing is that we have been to Texas de Brasil many times in Miami and their quality was excellent, dont know if they are the same owners but the one on westheimer was not on par with their Miami locations
No, that was Fuego Vivo.
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Fuego Vivo is from Florida. Texas de Brasil is a texan owned family corporation, and it is the direct competition of Fogo.
Fuego Vivo was sued by Fogo because in the beginning, they called themselve Fogo Vivo. Fogo de Chao sued them for the name similarity, and they had to change the name to Fuego Vivo. They still operate few restaurants in Florida.
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No, that was Fuego Vivo.
Yes you are right, Fuego Vivo!

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Yes you are right, Fuego Vivo!

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With a large group they probably add the tip in as well. I wish I could go but it looks like I will be busy on saturday.
and i was hoping to see your new bike..... there is always a next time!
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food is amazing there
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