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Old 01-08-2013, 10:43 AM   #21
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Weights on the bikes in my post are as follows:

Vee: 520#
Wee: 427#
Tiger 800: 462#
Tiger 1050: 435#

The Tiger 1050 is a Speed Triple with an upper fairing.
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:58 AM   #22
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Weights on the bikes in my post are as follows:

Vee: 520#
Wee: 427#
Tiger 800: 462#
Tiger 1050: 435#

The Tiger 1050 is a Speed Triple with an upper fairing.
Those look like dry weights, which is not all that realistic. Some mfr exclude not only fuel and fluids, but battery, tires and even brake pads and discs, from their DRY weight figures. Anything that might be considered a maintenance replacement item.

For example, I believe the Wee is closer to 490 lbs wet, ready-to-ride with a full tank of gas. Add some luggage and accessories, and you'll be well over 500 lbs.
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Old 01-08-2013, 12:33 PM   #23
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He's just going to have to deal with higher weight unless he wants to tour on something that isn't a ST platform (which is not a bad thing, really). I thought the general idea is he doesn't want a barge (GoldWing, Ultraglide, the big Victorys or Royal Star). 600lbs is a manageable weight, imo.
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He's just going to have to deal with higher weight unless he wants to tour on something that isn't a ST platform (which is not a bad thing, really). I thought the general idea is he doesn't want a barge (GoldWing, Ultraglide, the big Victorys or Royal Star). 600lbs is a manageable weight, imo.
I agree. Overall weight also needs to be considered along with seat height and how a bike carries its weight. A 500 lbs adv tourer with a 34" seat height, to me, is far more intimidating than a 700 lbs Sport Tourer with a 31" seat height and lower CoM. I test rode the BMW K1600GTL at the lower seat height, and it was very management for me - actually more so than my C14 with its slightly taller seat.

But... everybody is different. Plus your perception of what is heavy or light changes over time. After motoring on the C14 for a while, pushing the SV out of the garage feels like it's a dirtbike .

You really need to test ride a few different bikes - and I mean LONG test rides - to get a feel of what you like. There is nothing wrong with wanting a lightweight ST, which is why I bought the SV1K in the first place. It does give up quite a bit of creature comfort though, compared to the mighty C14.
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I'm pretty sure all of those enduro/dual purpose sport touring bikes have a seat height of 32" or more. I would think something like a Yamaha V Star 650 would be a really good fit for your description. You can probably find a 2007 model for less than $5k.
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Concours C-10 fits everything you described.
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Old 01-10-2013, 12:44 PM   #27
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Without a doubt the NEW Honda NC700X at $7k out the door (internet pricing). Although not light, maybe 475 pounds, it has an extemely low center of gravity and it is praised for feeling like it's 100 pounts lighter. Want to read a bit...here's 266 pages and 4000 posts confirming just how good this bike is.

http://advrider.com/forums/showthrea...ghlight=nc700x

Or, wait a few months and pick up the little brother, the new CB500X for around $6k.

http://powersports.honda.com/2013/cb500x.aspx

Honda makes bags and racks for them available at the dealer, 12v accesory plugs, and both have mileage in the 65+mpg range.
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Thanks, I will consider the new Hondas. A good riding buddy in Denver told me the same thing about the NC 700...the planets have yet to align...
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NC700X in La Marque for $6399 (asking price) on Cycletrader....
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