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Old 01-02-2013, 03:47 PM   #41
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According to Dave Wonders Ride Smart Owner you can get a ticket dismessed but have to have court/judge approval to take the class there. So when you sign up for Defensive Driving check with the Court..show them this link and see if you can!

According to the link provided by Bevo the schools are DPS certified then you can!
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According to Dave Wonders Ride Smart Owner you can get a ticket dismessed but have to have court/judge approval to take the class there. So when you sign up for Defensive Driving check with the Court..show them this link and see if you can!

According to the link provided by Bevo the schools are DPS certified then you can!
9. Can a motorcycle safety course be used for ticket dismissal?

Yes, you may take any Department-approved course listed on our website under Training Locations with prior court approval.

The law states that a judge may require you to successfully complete a driving safety course approved by the Texas Education Agency or a course under the motorcycle operator training and safety program approved by the designated state agency under Chapter 662, Transportation Code.

http://www.dps.texas.gov/msb/msbfaqs.htm
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Is this for real?
We could do a track day and get a ticket dismissed? Or is this just speculation?
Is like to see one of the orgs jump in and confirm.
Uh, did you click on the link I provided and read what was there?
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I had farmers insurance when I totaled mine on the track. Once it was clarified that it was not a race, they paid out just like normal.
Progressive will deny a claim for any incident on a racing surface regardless of what you were doing there. As least that was the case about 3 years ago when I tried.
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Uh, did you click on the link I provided and read what was there?
Uh, no need to be sarcastic, I'm at work and didn't have time to read the whole link. Just asking a straight up question trying to clarify the issue.
If you don't want to answer, that's cool. Maybe somebody, like a track day sponsor will chime in and let me/us know.
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Uh, no need to be sarcastic, I'm at work and didn't have time to read the whole link. Just asking a straight up question trying to clarify the issue.
If you don't want to answer, that's cool. Maybe somebody, like a track day sponsor will chime in and let me/us know.
Just did dude!! hope it cleared things up!
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So what did all the whining, emailing, backstabbing and "working closely" with DPS get the folks that did it?

Absolutely nothing.

Yup.. that's right. The DPS didn't all of a sudden require these schools to get "certified". They were pressured to misinterpret some transportation code.

Every school is now licensed and being overseen by a government agency. In the next few years, if not sooner... renewal fees, probably more guidelines, certifications being held hostage and whatever else the gubment decides they need to implement to keep your tax dollars being spent wisely.

That's right. The DPS, the very ones some of us quit riding the streets because of, are now at the track.

Bravo!

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So what did all the whining, emailing, backstabbing and "working closely" with DPS get the folks that did it?

Absolutely nothing.

Yup.. that's right. The DPS didn't all of a sudden require these schools to get "certified". They were pressured to misinterpret some transportation code.

Every school is now licensed and being overseen by a government agency. In the next few years, if not sooner... renewal fees, probably more guidelines, certifications being held hostage and whatever else the gubment decides they need to implement to keep your tax dollars being spent wisely.

That's right. The DPS, the very ones some of us quit riding the streets because of, are now at the track.

Bravo!
Maybe ticket dismissals will generate more business for track day organizations
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Pretty much. I've been saying for awhile that I'm gonna do a track day... now i have 90days (ish)

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Maybe ticket dismissals will generate more business for track day organizations
It's going to generate more of a hassle for the track orgs, tracks, which all trickles down to the customers. Us.

We didn't need the DPS involved. So far it has caused nothing but hiccups.
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So far it has caused nothing but hiccups.
I know it caused some drama. What are all the other hiccups it caused?
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So what you're saying is that this is good for US or the track orgs? DPS was looking after us and decided to offer us this opportunity?

I dunno about you, but wasn't one of the complaints for track orgs being too congested, specially in the lower levels? Imagine now, people going just to go and have no desire to get faster or gain skills, "just get through the day" for ticket dismissal.

Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of new people going to the track, but I learned a lesson this last year, unless someone really has the desire, no amount of enticement will do it.

Plus, there is more to "just showing up" at a trackday, it's not like the msf, there is preparations and other things. I've seen people that have come and asked advice here on their first time out and STILL need a lot of help and guidance day of track.

Sure, I guess the "standard" is raised or someshit, but that's according to the DPS, which really, I don't see how they at all should be any authority in a trackday that is out of public streets.

What next, take them inside TMGP or indoor go-carting? Seem something that was not broken was trying to get fixed.
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I'm not saying that at all. Who is "us"? I'm just saying there is possibly a benefit of more business. Don't the organizations have total control over class size? If there's more demand maybe they can offer more track days.
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I'm not saying that at all. Who is "us"? I'm just saying there is possibly a benefit of more business. Don't the organizations have total control over class size? If there's more demand maybe they can offer more track days.
You are absolutely 100% right on that. And if an org wants to have DPS certification, by all means go ahead. Should be left optional for a school, not something the HAVE to do.


If a school wants to go through the hassle of doing it, by all means, it could be their competitive edge and a way for them to attract new business.
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A onesy or twosey here and there in exchange for DPS oversight?

No thanks.

In all teh years I have been around Ride Smart I have seen 1 ticket dismissal person. And he crashed.

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You are absolutely 100% right on that. And if an org wants to have DPS certification, by all means go ahead. Should be left optional for a school, not something the HAVE to do.


If a school wants to go through the hassle of doing it, by all means, it could be their competitive edge and a way for them to attract new business.
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