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Old 12-25-2012, 11:54 AM   #101
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i wonder how many bad guys, murders, rapists, child molestors, bank robbers have been busted over the years in a traffic stop....
and if it turned out that a cop did not chase someone who ran and later it turns out the runners was a child molestor and he molested several more children before he was stopped, when it came out that he had been let go because a cop did not chase, what would folks say then....
life happens and you can not take the risk out of it...it is not just about a speeding ticket when someone runs... we all know that any reasonable person does not run to avoid a ticket...so when somone runs a cop has to consider that there is more than likely a reason worth running for, and that means go get him...don't blame the cops for doing their job, blame the bad guy who runs...and if anything bad happens as a result of the running, charge the runner with that too...
Probably not as many as you may think.
The risk of an innocent person being injured or killed is almost as likely as the person running.

It's a slippery slope.
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That crazy guy in NY that burned those houses and shot and killed the firemen, he was released from prison after killing his grandmother with a hammer.
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That crazy guy in NY that burned those houses and shot and killed the firemen, he was released from prison after killing his grandmother with a hammer.
Hmm where were the police?
Probably making petty traffic stops.
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Hmm where were the police?
Probably making petty traffic stops.
the police did not cut the guy loose...
and yes traffic stops are petty... all those folks driving like they own the road instead of share the road, they need to be allowed to just carry on as they were, and the folks that they kill with their selfish and irresponsible behavior should, pardon the pun, live with it.
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the police did not cut the guy loose...
and yes traffic stops are petty... all those folks driving like they own the road instead of share the road, they need to be allowed to just carry on as they were, and the folks that they kill with their selfish and irresponsible behavior should, pardon the pun, live with it.
Or just reform licensing laws.
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Hmm where were the police?
Probably making petty traffic stops.
One of the volunteer firemen killed was also a cop. If your home is on fire, I'll be sure and call the police instead
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Or just reform licensing laws.
i could go for that, when they stop you for a traffic violation, instead of writting you a ticket, they just take your license and your vehicle. that would get the bad drivers off the road, and keep folks from running. they would be a lot less likely to run if they knew they were going to lose their car and license instead of just get a ticket or spend a few hours in jail
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i could go for that, when they stop you for a traffic violation, instead of writting you a ticket, they just take your license and your vehicle. that would get the bad drivers off the road, and keep folks from running. they would be a lot less likely to run if they knew they were going to lose their car and license instead of just get a ticket or spend a few hours in jail
Yeah, come election day, just stay home Obed.
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i have not missed a voting day in over 40 years...but the way the system works, this would not be on the ballot...might bounce it off of my state representative next time i talk to them though....i always believed tickets were more about fund raising than than public safety.
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We don't live in a perfect world. There are associated risks when leaving your house....it sucks that innocent individuals are subject to being taken out during a chase, but I chalk it up to life. After enough people are chased and pay the ultimate price (being shot, crash & burn, hit a brick wall, etc.) folks might start thinking twice. Maybe.
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Maybe you should move there instead.
This is the land of the free and the home of the brave.

Damned be the cowards of this great state.
I have no want to move there, I love my country, thats why Im trying to change it and hope that someday it does. I hope that eventually people will take responsibility for themselves and the citizens take a little more responsibility for the control of criminals and not let like the leg shot guy get off easy. But that is a big problem here is people like you who stick up for criminals and and complain that criminals are all innocent and the police are the real criminals. You must not have lived in the woods before. I grew up in the country and if you f*ck up or break the law, its not just the cops you have to watch out for, thats small town living for ya and thats what this country needs again
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We don't live in a perfect world. There are associated risks when leaving your house....it sucks that innocent individuals are subject to being taken out during a chase, but I chalk it up to life. After enough people are chased and pay the ultimate price (being shot, crash & burn, hit a brick wall, etc.) folks might start thinking twice. Maybe.
They haven't yet.

The bottom line is our judicial system is too lenient. There needs to be harsher punishment instead of putting the perp through a revolving door system like we have.
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that is a really good " i did not say anything" accusation...
what news agency reported that, and why is it not traceable on line?
and in the off chance that is not pure bullshit, what would that have to do with a chase situation?
pretty easy to find.

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Well.... I don't think anyone (would have to go back and read) has said it was appropriate for the officer to "shoot at" your buddy.

Everything I have seen is you and your buddy if you choose to run and you get what you get and don't pitch a fit....

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The runner wasn't my buddy, and i don't run. I just deal with the ticket and continue motoring. Your statement is not internally consistent. in one breath you claim no one has said it was appropriate to shoot at my buddy (again not my buddy and I have no idea why you think it is) then in the next line you say you "get what you get".

I'll reiterate, I do not have enough information to say if I think the shooting was justified, but I think the sentiment of many people posting (yes go back and read) that runners deserve to get shot is .

Also for the record so no one misconstrues my viewpoint, I don't condone running, and I understand there are situations where the cops may need to shoot at a runner. My issue is the knee jerk reaction I see from some folks.
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The runner wasn't my buddy, and i don't run. I just deal with the ticket and continue motoring. Your statement is not internally consistent. in one breath you claim no one has said it was appropriate to shoot at my buddy (again not my buddy and I have no idea why you think it is) then in the next line you say you "get what you get".

I'll reiterate, I do not have enough information to say if I think the shooting was justified, but I think the sentiment of many people posting (yes go back and read) that runners deserve to get shot is .

Also for the record so no one misconstrues my viewpoint, I don't condone running, and I understand there are situations where the cops may need to shoot at a runner. My issue is the knee jerk reaction I see from some folks.
It's not knee jerk. It comes from 20+ years of people who ride their scooters responsably and do the right thing when they get called for riding "spirited" getting a bad wrap because of others who chose to be thugs....

And the statement that I don't "condone" the police firing on a fleeing
person but not feeling sorry for them getting shot at (you get what you get) is not contradictory. It's how I "feel" about it. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes....
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yep that article says that the police are telling one story and an "eye wittness" is saying something else....
we do not know what happened and the article makes no assumption, only reports on a lawsuit...it has not been determined by any investigaion or court ruling...
someone saying something does not make it so...it might be, but we do not know that...so for the poster to say it happened is NOT an accurate statement... if he had said it was an accusation made by the womans family, that would have been accurate... i can find nothing on the web that confirms their accusation....
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I think its kind of cool the cops had the to shoot him and i hope he didnt get repremaded. Tired of all the .
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