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Old 12-15-2012, 02:33 PM   #21
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I like the very front or the very back. Its not a speed factor for me. I dont want to be in the middle where you have a greater chance of getting hit and have less room to maneuver. I avoid group rides most of the time. Seems like someone is always eating . Not the I want to see or be involved in.
same here, i choose to stay in the back most of the time not because i am the slowest rider but because most of the accidents happens in the middle and i have personally seen how riders in the front group get wiped out by inexperienced riders at the stop light. In my opinion, staying in the back is the safest place, specially when the group gets too large.
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:36 PM   #22
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I'm like you Frank....like to be the sweeper...keeps me in check too, and I get to learn more watching everyone else... It can be ego sure..thats obvious...

but I the main reason I personally like to be up front on faster rides, is because the person, say it be you Frank, Jimmy, Gary, Bevo, or even Jimrad is because they know the lines, and the less experience along the pack don't always give the right signals, warning, predictability..etc..etc....

even leaders that post slower paced rides like I rather sweep than lead...its just someone has to step up...if they know the way and won't get us lost let them lead...Its good to experience it up front, and sweeping because they require different riding styles. IMO
same way i feel!
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:39 PM   #23
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With our SDRC group I usually lead because I know the route. If Bevo is riding I wave him on at the tight sections because he is a better rider and fun to follow. If Gary is riding with us I prefer if he leads because that's where he feels comfortable. If I am doing a slower pace ride I let anyone pass tha wants to go faster. So in my case I don't care who leads really. I am ok even behind slower riders. I just increase the gap so I can speed up in corners and take it easy on the straights. If I was riding with hugo and Texlurch I let them stay in front because they know each others riding style. If I ride with a group I have never been with I will stay behind and observe how the group functions.

When I say let them. I mean prefer. Or I wave them
My priority on any ride is to come home safe with my group. Not to show everyone I am some badass
Yeap, i always prefer to ride behind people i havent ridden with just to make sure they know what they are doing and i can be at ease.
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:46 PM   #25
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One major factor for me is on large group rides, I have gotten stuck behind people that were not someone I wanted to follow. This can (and has) include bad lines, trying to make up speed in the straights from falling behind in the corners, or just generally riding in an unsafe manor. I'll just pass these people because I do not want to get caught up in their mistakes. I actually don't like large group rides for the reasons above.
great minds think alike.

I like small groups....people I know who can ride at a similar pace ( out).
Sometimes I am just wanting to cruise and see stuff.

First time I rode Big Bend (dirt) I was hammering on it. Got back to camp....."did you see the miners ruins?"......me= "hauling , wern't you?" .....

next time I was 30 minutes behind the lead guy....on the way back, I got to camp an hour before everyone else and had burgers going


I am a bit embarrassed to say the last ride I went on with anyone here, I had to size myself up. SO sometimes ego does play in.
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great minds think alike.

I like small groups....people I know who can ride at a similar pace ( out).
Sometimes I am just wanting to cruise and see stuff.

First time I rode Big Bend (dirt) I was hammering on it. Got back to camp....."did you see the miners ruins?"......me= "hauling , wern't you?" .....

next time I was 30 minutes behind the lead guy....on the way back, I got to camp an hour before everyone else and had burgers going


I am a bit embarrassed to say the last ride I went on with anyone here, I had to size myself up. SO sometimes ego does play in.
i guess thats why i have never seen the little church everyone talks about on RR
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I dont mind where I am in the group unless its at RR and I can play with Frank
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With our SDRC group I usually lead because I know the route. If Bevo is riding I wave him on at the tight sections because he is a better rider and fun to follow. If Gary is riding with us I prefer if he leads because that's where he feels comfortable. If I am doing a slower pace ride I let anyone pass tha wants to go faster. So in my case I don't care who leads really. I am ok even behind slower riders. I just increase the gap so I can speed up in corners and take it easy on the straights. If I was riding with hugo and Texlurch I let them stay in front because they know each others riding style. If I ride with a group I have never been with I will stay behind and observe how the group functions.

When I say let them. I mean prefer. Or I wave them
My priority on any ride is to come home safe with my group. Not to show everyone I am some badass
What Super Douche said!
I think people are just inexperienced and assume they are faster or something.

On long backroad hauls, if I am not leading, I think it feels comfortable and natural to stay in the same position in line all day. You find that groove, know the riders habits riding in front of you and it all falls into place and makes sense.
I think its the inexperienced riders who do a lot of the movement. Us old folks have good, days, great days, and days (like the one where I went mowing the grass on Jimmy's ride) but my skillz average out to pretty good. I gots nothing to prove to any shitbird out there. As long as I make it home with my and my bike in the same conditon that they left home in...im good.
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I have yet to be on a ride where we all practiced "The Pace" (famous Nick Ientasch article posted in a sticky here).

I would like to get a group of Five to Six riders to go out and roll that. Come close a few times but I wanna have that sycronized no brake lights, good steering input, fast corner pace ride!

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I dont mind where I am in the group unless its at RR and I can play with Frank
pretty much the same here.... remember the other day when you saw my traction control kick in? i found out a week later that i was running both tires at 21 psi actually Gary brought it to my attention i m glad TC was working correctly
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i am not much for going on rides. I used to go on rides a lot, but i had 4 other riders that i went with, they are all gone... i knew them, knew how they rode...
I am quite reluctant to ride with folks I know nothing about...I have been on rides where people have pulled stupid and got themselves hurt and sometimes other people with them...there are people on this forum that i have never been on rides with, but considering how they act at meets and how they behave at trackdays i would ride with them, there are also folks on here and folks i have seen at trackdays that there is no way in i am going to ride with... i think trish described why pretty well
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I also want to add:

I have yet to be on a ride where we all practiced "The Pace" (famous Nick Ientasch article posted in a sticky here).

I would like to get a group of Five to Six riders to go out and roll that. Come close a few times but I wanna have that sycronized no brake lights, good steering input, fast corner pace ride!

Anyone wanna sign up?
We do it when all of the regular Sunday Riders show up, since we already know who is the fastest in the group there is no point in proving anything to anybody, but when you have a mix of riders with different skill levels in the group, it is not fun to ask the faster guys to slow down and it is also not fair to pressure the slower guys to keep up and cause them to wreck trying. The easiest way for us has been to separate both groups so both can have fun and go home in 1 piece.
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pretty much the same here.... remember the other day when you saw my traction control kick in? i found out a week later that i was running both tires at 21 psi actually Gary brought it to my attention i m glad TC was working correctly
Was that TC for wheel spin or wheelie?

I have only ridden my ZX10 twice at a fast pace but the TC has kept me from going airborn three times. Gotta love TC and modern engineering.
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Was that TC for wheel spin or wheelie?

I have only ridden my ZX10 twice at a fast pace but the TC has kept me from going airborn three times. Gotta love TC and modern engineering.
wheel spin because the bmw has an anti-wheelie already programmed into the ecu so it is pretty hard to pull a wheelie and try to ride it for more than 5 secs, i believe on the 2012 models bmw decided to allow riders to wheelie the bike longer.
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pretty much the same here.... remember the other day when you saw my traction control kick in? i found out a week later that i was running both tires at 21 psi actually Gary brought it to my attention i m glad TC was working correctly
Its a ritual of mine to check my pressure before I take the bike off the stands to go play.
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Its a ritual of mine to check my pressure before I take the bike off the stands to go play.
That was the first time i rode the bike in months, i should have checked just to make sure but since i was partying all night, got home around 6am, took a quick shower and completely forgot about checking the tires
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