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Old 12-15-2012, 01:19 PM   #1
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I have been on many rides involving large and small groups in the past 5 years and i have noticed that some riders either loves jumping to the front of the pack or can't seem to handle staying behind someone. I would like to know your opinion on this because from my own experience i dont really care who leads the ride or who rides in front of me specially when we are just cruising through some farm roads or highways, in fact most of the times you will find me in the back of the group as a sweeper. I see this all the times, and it is usually the less experienced riders that tend to do this The only time that i would make a pass is whenever someone holds me up at RR but other than that i am pretty much cool with staying in position during the whole ride.
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Old 12-15-2012, 01:27 PM   #2
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Most people want to feel like they have the fastest bike, maybe it's just a natural thing... Idk
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Old 12-15-2012, 01:30 PM   #3
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Mostly its because they feel they can go faster. For the less experience it's just ego and having the feeling they need to keep up with the faster folks since they don't want to be labeled slow. Masculinity, I guess. PITA to type with one hand...
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Old 12-15-2012, 01:31 PM   #4
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Most people want to feel like they have the fastest bike, maybe it's just a natural thing... Idk
hahahaha yeah probably, but they dont realize that they would also need the fastest rider on it to make it the fastest bike.
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Old 12-15-2012, 01:36 PM   #5
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Mostly its because they feel they can go faster. For the less experience it's just ego and having the feeling they need to keep up with the faster folks since they don't want to be labeled slow. Masculinity, I guess. PITA to type with one hand...
Judging from both posts, the first reason is because they believe they have the fastest bike so they should be in the front of the group. Secondly, ego plays a major role for inexperienced riders, and last.... they dont want to be labeled as a slow rider.
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Judging from both posts, the first reason is because they believe they have the fastest bike so they should be in the front of the group. Secondly, ego plays a major role for inexperienced riders, and last.... they dont want to be labeled as a slow rider.
Sounds about right to me
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inexperience. and ego.
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I have been on many rides involving large and small groups in the past 5 years and i have noticed that some riders either loves jumping to the front of the pack or can't seem to handle staying behind someone. I would like to know your opinion on this because from my own experience i dont really care who leads the ride or who rides in front of me specially when we are just cruising through some farm roads or highways, in fact most of the times you will find me in the back of the group as a sweeper. I see this all the times, and it is usually the less experienced riders that tend to do this The only time that i would make a pass is whenever someone holds me up at RR but other than that i am pretty much cool with staying in position during the whole ride.
that would be about 95% of anyone in front of you buddy.
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that would be about 95% of anyone in front of you buddy.
hahaha, good to see you posting again, what happened to you last Sunday? we waited for you at La Mad but you didnt show up
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Old 12-15-2012, 01:53 PM   #10
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i prefer stay behind the fast riders

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didnt wake up in time. im hoping to get a bike again around march/april. I miss the riding a lot.
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Old 12-15-2012, 01:57 PM   #12
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Im sure its because it gets monotonous being in one position in the group the whole time.
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what are you talking about? you are pretty fast
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:02 PM   #14
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didnt wake up in time. im hoping to get a bike again around march/april. I miss the riding a lot.
have you seen the new zx6? or the cbr? both are super nice
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Im sure its because it gets monotonous being in one position in the group the whole time.
well that could be another factor but i have been sweeper for most of the rides that i post and i am cool with that, it is only when we get to the faster part of the ride that i feel like passing slower riders.
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:23 PM   #16
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One major factor for me is on large group rides, I have gotten stuck behind people that were not someone I wanted to follow. This can (and has) include bad lines, trying to make up speed in the straights from falling behind in the corners, or just generally riding in an unsafe manor. I'll just pass these people because I do not want to get caught up in their mistakes. I actually don't like large group rides for the reasons above.
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I like the very front or the very back. Its not a speed factor for me. I dont want to be in the middle where you have a greater chance of getting hit and have less room to maneuver. I avoid group rides most of the time. Seems like someone is always eating . Not the I want to see or be involved in.
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One major factor for me is on large group rides, I have gotten stuck behind people that were not someone I wanted to follow. This can (and has) include bad lines, trying to make up speed in the straights from falling behind in the corners, or just generally riding in an unsafe manor. I'll just pass these people because I do not want to get caught up in their mistakes. I actually don't like large group rides for the reasons above.
good way to look at it
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With our SDRC group I usually lead because I know the route. If Bevo is riding I wave him on at the tight sections because he is a better rider and fun to follow. If Gary is riding with us I prefer if he leads because that's where he feels comfortable. If I am doing a slower pace ride I let anyone pass tha wants to go faster. So in my case I don't care who leads really. I am ok even behind slower riders. I just increase the gap so I can speed up in corners and take it easy on the straights. If I was riding with hugo and Texlurch I let them stay in front because they know each others riding style. If I ride with a group I have never been with I will stay behind and observe how the group functions.

When I say let them. I mean prefer. Or I wave them
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I'm like you Frank....like to be the sweeper...keeps me in check too, and I get to learn more watching everyone else... It can be ego sure..thats obvious...

but I the main reason I personally like to be up front on faster rides, is because the person, say it be you Frank, Jimmy, Gary, Bevo, or even Jimrad is because they know the lines, and the less experience along the pack don't always give the right signals, warning, predictability..etc..etc....

even leaders that post slower paced rides like I rather sweep than lead...its just someone has to step up...if they know the way and won't get us lost let them lead...Its good to experience it up front, and sweeping because they require different riding styles. IMO
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