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Old 12-14-2012, 05:29 PM   #61
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I knew that Ivan would get where I was coming from. Now here is my stance on this issue. And anybody that feels like arguing you are more than welcome to try. The point is this. The reason most people go to the track is to actually learn to ride their bike. Whether its bp. Better braking habits. Taking a turn or whatever. Every single thing you learn on the track will translate into being a safer rider on the street ( even hauling ). Take bp for example. Lets take two riders. One uses track bp and one uses the conventional street bp. They both take a turn at the same rate of speed. Which rider will be closer to crashing? Which one will be on the edge of their tires?

The answer is the one using "street bp"

The person using track bp will not have his bike leaned over as far as street bp guy because the whole point of leaning off the bike is to have the weight on the inside of the bike. In doing so track bp guy will have his bike more straight up and down. Which translates to being more on the fat part of the tire.

If you see a noob trying to imitate track bp and you don't know what the you are talking about because you are still a noob yourself. Send them to someone who does. Don't tell them to stop. Atleast they are trying.
And now the pot is stirred!
I tell them to stop because its nonsense!
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:30 PM   #62
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Im not a noob but not an expert either, every time I go out I learn something new.
I will be attending a track day when it starts up again...
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^^^^ this guy is good.

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Old 12-14-2012, 05:34 PM   #64
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And now the pot is stirred!
I tell them to stop because its nonsense!
Wanna argue!
No point in arguing with you. If you don't want to listen then that's on you. But sometimes you really should listen to someone with more experience.
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:37 PM   #65
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Correcto. My only issue with what you have said is counter steer. You should be using your legs and body to control what the bike does not so much your arms. It's not a car lol. Just put weight which ever direction you want to go and you will go. If your back wheel is spinning up by all means counter steer to save that . But past that. Legs and body
Well,
I cannot wait to see what curse word will come out of you this time but what is your take here?

I get and agree with Rykoson's BP and the physics behind how BP affects a bike; however, you countersteer the bike with the bars.

http://www.superbikeschool.com/machi...bs-machine.php
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:47 PM   #66
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Well,
I cannot wait to see what curse word will come out of you this time but what is your take here?

I get and agree with Rykoson's BP and the physics behind how BP affects a bike; however, you countersteer the bike with the bars.

http://www.superbikeschool.com/machi...bs-machine.php
wow are you serious? Ofcourse that's how you counter steer. Go back and re read what I said. You use your arms to counter steer. And I said that unless you are trying to keep the bike going while the back tire is sliding. use your body and legs to steer the bike not your arms(counter steer)

And you can throw quotes from superbike school all you want. Kieth code was never a fast racer. He is making a living off of noobs. Atleast find material from Kevin shwantz, Colin Edwards, Freddie spencer and the like.
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:51 PM   #67
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In fact. Next time you go ride. Stand up on the pegs. Put all your weight on one foot and see which the bike goes.
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You are definitely the type of person that believes everything you read in a magazine. Test these theories yourself
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I that chris, awesome!!!
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wow are you serious? Ofcourse that's how you counter steer. Go back and re read what I said. You use your arms to counter steer. And I said that unless you are trying to keep the bike going while the back tire is sliding. use your body and legs to steer the bike not your arms(counter steer)

And you can throw quotes from superbike school all you want. Kieth code was never a fast racer. He is making a living off of noobs. Atleast find material from Kevin shwantz, Colin Edwards, Freddie spencer and the like.
1)Calm down because Im messing with you.
2)Just because you are experienced does not mean you are the only all knowing experienced rider. I am not either but please do not assume that I do not know what I am talking about. We may have differing opinions but that is it.

This is your exact quote:
"Correcto. My only issue with what you have said is counter steer. You should be using your legs and body to control what the bike does not so much your arms. It's not a car lol. Just put weight which ever direction you want to go and you will go. If your back wheel is spinning up by all means counter steer to save that . But past that. Legs and body"

SO my question to you the experienced guy who made the statement above, is do you not believe the "No BS" bike? If so, why? The NO BS bike disputed your statement. Maybe I am misreading yours.
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Not lol and thank you. Haven't hopped on the chive yet today
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Well first I think the no bs bike is bs. My opinion on the whole counter steering stuff is this. 1. It is over exaggerated by many schools and riders.
Counter steering is a natural thing that happens when you lean the bike with your body.
It is a natural thing when the tire starts to slide. (Obviously in this case it will be a lot more) even in the article you posted it had quotes from some of the people I mentioned above stating that it is better to use body steering.

The way most people counter steer is to put pressure on the bars. And this all they do. My statement above says to use legs and body to steer the bike. ( if you notice when you lean off the bike you are pulling and pushing on the bars)
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maybe romeo should come out and play with us on the "street"
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any body can go round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round can get faster...

street riders with 1 track day and whooping power to put this "technics" down without "teachings" have more than the mary go round guys.. sorry, it's reality.. keep telling yourself you're fast

Lmao. Please ask around before you decide to call me out to see if I have "the "
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Oh just so everyone is clear. I have no issues with anyone in this thread. Differences in opinion yea sure. But that's as far as that goes.
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I am not afraid to call any one out, btw seems you be feeling like an american idol
faq i'm bored...
need to get my bike soon.. I'm going nuts
Haha. No def not feeling like American idol. Just bored mixed in with tired of everybody thinking they know everything after riding the track a few times in a year.

Talk about nuts. This weather Fukin blows. Where's the heat and sun. I want to ride.
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