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Old 12-12-2012, 12:34 PM   #161
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Old 12-12-2012, 01:34 PM   #162
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Two thoughts:

First. There is a lot of crossover among various forms of two-wheel machines. The same basic vehicle dynamics (weight transfer, limits of traction, slip angles, oversteer/understeer, etc.) apply whether it is a 200HP SS or human-powered racing bicycle. I remember watching Greg LeMond in one of his TdF wins, at one point coming down the Pyranees locking up his rear brake to correct his track on a downhill turn. Greg might not have even ridden a motorcycle up to that point, but the 3-time TdF champ knows vehicle dynamics.

The difference in scale may be enormous, as it is between a 747 and a Piper Cub, but the basic vehicle/flight dynamics are very much the same.

Second. Even with the same bike, there are many different types of riding, each with its own learning curves. Track, performance street riding, heavy traffic commuting (or as I call it, street survival), XC touring (aka iron ), dirt, stunt, etc. The RC guys argue this all the time - what takes more skill to fly? Pattern, 3D, eggbeater, thermal soaring? Everybody loves to brag, but in the end, it's about learning to get better at whatever sport you choose to engage in.

If a stunt rider has no intention of going AMA racing and focuses on what what he does best, what makes kneedraggers better riders than him?
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Old 12-12-2012, 03:16 PM   #163
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Two thoughts:

First. There is a lot of crossover among various forms of two-wheel machines. The same basic vehicle dynamics (weight transfer, limits of traction, slip angles, oversteer/understeer, etc.) apply whether it is a 200HP SS or human-powered racing bicycle. I remember watching Greg LeMond in one of his TdF wins, at one point coming down the Pyranees locking up his rear brake to correct his track on a downhill turn. Greg might not have even ridden a motorcycle up to that point, but the 3-time TdF champ knows vehicle dynamics.

The difference in scale may be enormous, as it is between a 747 and a Piper Cub, but the basic vehicle/flight dynamics are very much the same.

Second. Even with the same bike, there are many different types of riding, each with its own learning curves. Track, performance street riding, heavy traffic commuting (or as I call it, street survival), XC touring (aka iron ), dirt, stunt, etc. The RC guys argue this all the time - what takes more skill to fly? Pattern, 3D, eggbeater, thermal soaring? Everybody loves to brag, but in the end, it's about learning to get better at whatever sport you choose to engage in.

If a stunt rider has no intention of going AMA racing and focuses on what what he does best, what makes kneedraggers better riders than him?
I belive you might be overthinking this topic.
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Old 12-12-2012, 03:19 PM   #164
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I belive you might be overthinking this topic.
162posts before I got to it. You think?
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Two days riding experience, and I can grantee that I'm a better rider than anyone on this forum...
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Old 12-12-2012, 04:53 PM   #167
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On a bicycle or moto gp on ps3
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That is it! We are taking it to the STREETS!
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Compared to a scooter..... It sure does! A scooter or an R6 wont break loose your rear tire when coming out of the turn do you dont even have to worry about giving it too much power. On my 1098 i can spin the rear tire coming out of the turn because it doesnt come with any type of electronic nany, downshifting also takes a bit of finese because without a slipper clutch the bike will fishtail if you make a mistake! The streetfighter uses the same engine as the 1098 so it is not as forgiving as your normal R6.
that maybe true of the r6's with slipper clutches.... but i can beak the rear tire loose coming out of a corner on my cable clutch r6. ive done it twice on accident. the second time i went down. lol
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:03 PM   #170
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That is it! We are taking it to the STREETS!
You're on!! Just let me get like a 10 minute head start though...
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:06 PM   #171
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that maybe true of the r6's with slipper clutches.... but i can beak the rear tire loose coming out of a corner on my cable clutch r6. ive done it twice on accident. the second time i went down. lol
exactly my point
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:31 PM   #172
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exactly my point
i must have missed the point then, i was thinking you said it was impossible to break the rear loose coming out of a corner on a lowly r6??
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Does it really matter??


You're on!! Just let me get like a 10 minute head start though...
let me know so i can hunt both of you down.........
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Old 12-12-2012, 09:44 PM   #174
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let me know so i can hunt both of you down.........
I doubt you can catch up to me and my two days experience... I'd smoke you...
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22hrs here bro. come at me.
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