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Old 12-11-2012, 03:23 PM   #81
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Old 12-11-2012, 03:23 PM   #82
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and yes, a guy on harley with miles on it, its safe to say he knows how to ride.

you ever rode one? They have their place in the 2 wheeled space continuum.
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Old 12-11-2012, 03:23 PM   #83
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you have no idea.
Have to agree here.
2 wheels is 2 wheels.

Be it a bicycle or a supersport.
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Have to agree here.
2 wheels is 2 wheels.

Be it a bicycle or a supersport.
Except you can legally ride a bike on the street without a license or insurance
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Old 12-11-2012, 03:38 PM   #86
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That's what i meant bout learnin to "ride", without the added stress of learnin' how to shift.

Once i had those techniques, once i hopped on a standard shiftin was a breeze.
Right, its about 80% similar. But if your pushing a bike on the streets...you need to know friction zones on a clutch, you also need to know how to use a back brak and front break. Also entering, exiting corners, popping it out of turn....Im sure the Track Guys could go more into it.
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Have to agree here.
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Be it a bicycle or a supersport.
Ummm....NOOOOO. As and AVID Mountain bike rider I STRONGLY disagree on many levels.
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The fundamentals of a scooter vs a motorcycle are basically the same in that they are both a 2 wheeled vehicle, both have a handlebar vs a steering wheel and both have a motor on it as opposed to a bicycle. Now the mechanics of riding a scooter vs a motorcycle are almost the same, you have to balance on 2 wheels when going straight and cornering, also accelerate and brake during your normal daily commute, but thats where the similarities end! I come from a place where the streets are dominated by scooters and i have ridden scooters most of my childhood, either to go to the store or to school, the mechanics of riding any type of scooter is far more simple than riding an actual motorcycle specially if you add speed to the equation. Now you can buy 800cc scooters and if you put it against a 600cc sport bike you will see that the 200 extra ccs on the scooter will do nothing against a smaller motorcycle. Dont get me wrong...Both are fun to ride but scooters were designed for inner city commuting and motorcycles for the open road, thats why whenever i visit Taiwan i rather ride a scooter than a sport bike but when i am in the US where the roads are so wide and distances are so big, without a doubt i would pick a motorcycle vs a scooter any day of the week!
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Why is it that whenever TMAX comments in a thread there is controversy?

I been riding since 1980 so.... 32 years.
<<<<That's me on the Gulf Fwy, skipping work, headed for Galveston at about 70mph in 1981, lol




FWIW, a scooter is NOT the same as a motorcycle. Just the lack of power, not to mention the difference in controls and handling, is enough to make a pretty big difference.
Not bashing the scooter thing, just pointing out that they're different.
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I been riding since 1980 so.... 32 years.
<<<<That's me on the Gulf Fwy, skipping work, headed for Galveston at about 70mph in 1981, lol




FWIW, a scooter is NOT the same as a motorcycle. Just the lack of power, not to mention the difference in controls and handling, is enough to make a pretty big difference.
Not bashing the scooter thing, just pointing out that they're different.
Controls and handling are the same on a maxi scoot.

Like whatever you were riding there in 1981, my scooter will bash it on galveston and 3090 and Mulholland, and Arkansas, and the twisted sisters...like Newrider says...

"just sayin"
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funny thing is you all make it like shifting on a motorcycle takes skills or somethin.
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Controls and handling are the same on a maxi scoot.

Like whatever you were riding there in 1981, my scooter will bash it on galveston and 3090 and Mulholland, and Arkansas, and the twisted sisters...like Newrider says...

"just sayin"
Yeah maybe you're scooter would out run my 1980 XS850 Special that weighed 600lbs and had 83HP.
Let's see if it will outrun my 2010 Ducati Streetfighter that weighs 412lbs and has 155hp.

Just sayin'
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Yeah maybe you're scooter would out run my 1980 XS850 Special that weighed 600lbs and had 83HP.
Let's see if it will outrun my 2010 Ducati Streetfighter that weighs 412lbs and has 155hp.

Just sayin'
Put me on the same 2010 Ducati Streetfighter, and i'll likely smoke ya.

I have the skillset, but i CHOOSE to stay moderate.
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Shifting does take skill, not everyone can do it correctly.

Some nasty can happen when you downshift to fast
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Some nasty can happen when you downshift to fast
sure, but for some its a cake walk, just have to know where your at.
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Exactly for some, not many
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Put me on the same 2010 Ducati Streetfighter, and i'll likely smoke ya.

I have the skillset, but i CHOOSE to stay moderate.
Talkin big don't mean nuthin. You're making the mistaken assumption that I don't have the skills.
I see now why there is controversy when you post. I'm sure you're a great guy in person but you make yourself sound foolish on the internet.
Maybe we'll meet some day, I'll buy you a beer and we'll get to know each other better.
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