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Old 10-30-2012, 05:29 PM   #1
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RideSmart level questions

I noticed this weekend there were different levels.

Not sure how they break down....1-3, which is the advanced group?

Also, who determines what level you are in? Honor system? and or coordinators?

A little too much traffic for me, but I seek knowledge.
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3 is the advanced group, if you have never been on a track before you are in lvl 1 and your track experience and lap times determine when you move up.
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There is some loose guide lines like suggested lap times for level 3. Fast guys and practicing racers (no class to attend) Level 2 seems to have the biggest gap in skills but it is a necessary evil. It is accompanied by classes. It's the group were you start to apply skills with decent speeds. It also has guys just on the edge of moving up. Level one is just that level one. Classes. First timers and learning the basics of lines, inputs and riding physics. Fast street guys can probably skip this or move through quickly even if its first time. I've been to about 7 of there events over the last 2 years and that the way i see it.
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I noticed this weekend there were different levels.

Not sure how they break down....1-3, which is the advanced group?

Also, who determines what level you are in? Honor system? and or coordinators?

A little too much traffic for me, but I seek knowledge.
Did you ride this weekend?
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Level 1 = Novice
Level 2 = intermediate
Level 3 = Advance

The level or riding comes down to how good of a rider you are and how predictable.
People fail to understand that at a track day you can get hurt really easy.
Even though you are going in circle in the same track over and over and over you would think people will finally get it but they donít.

I like to think that level 1 riders are people who are not comfortable getting pass close at high speed and are not familiar with the track and also need to work on their body position. Been comfortable on their bike is a big key.

Level 2 riders are riders who are more comfortable with higher speed and are more comfortable getting pass at a closer and more aggressive range.

And finally we have level 3, who are very fast riders and very predictable.
Riders that will take everything you got to make a pass at a very close and high speed.

everyone think just because you've done a few track days in level 1 that you are ready to jump in level 2 and also that goes to level 2 riders who they think because they can drag knee that they are ready for 3. Think again...

It may take you 1 track day to move up or it may take you 2 yrs... Who care!?!?! Put your self in a level that you are comfortable with.
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It may take you 1 track day to move up or it may take you 2 yrs... Who care!?!?! Put your self in a level that you are comfortable with.
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Did you ride this weekend?
no, like I said, too much traffic.
I have done a few track days in my time.

I kinda get bored riding in circles, but the occasional lap is fun.
I have run a few races, mx, harescrambles, lots of stuff on closed course, but never made it a passion. Now cross country and rallies I really enjoy.

We just moved our shop to the track, since I do not have to pay for track time......
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It may take you 1 track day to move up or it may take you 2 yrs... Who care!?!?! Put your self in a level that you are comfortable with.
Ride Smart does not offer MSF......
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lol.. Yes. We know.

The only time I run into traffic is when you see switch or babymilos or Ivan out in level 3.. Lol
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all the info you need right here..

http://ridesmart.info/
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lvl 1 http://www.ridesmart.info/index.php?page=school.level1

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lvl 3 http://www.ridesmart.info/index.php?page=school.level3
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this op is the guy who said he had his shop out there... and said he was going to spectate and offered the use of his tools and facility to anyone who needed it that day...his mention of grid size is about the most common complaint i hear when anyone talks about Ride Smart trackdays...Ride Smart is a good group and if it has a weakness, grid size is it.
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no, like I said, too much traffic.
I have done a few track days in my time.

I kinda get bored riding in circles, but the occasional lap is fun.
I have run a few races, mx, harescrambles, lots of stuff on closed course, but never made it a passion. Now cross country and rallies I really enjoy.

We just moved our shop to the track, since I do not have to pay for track time......
I am a member out there. It's pretty cool being able to ride on an empty track and it serves its purpose but the real fun for me is having guys to ride with.

Ridesmart is the biggest motorcycle school in Texas, in terms of turn out. Much of the issue with grid size is two fold.

1. Ridesmart has the highest cap of all the orgs. This means they allow more riders, per group.

2. Even though they allow more riders per group, they almost always sell out.

The upside to a larger grid size is more volume means lower prices passed on to the consumer.

Not everyone can afford a membership, or a garage, or $150 track days.. I'd venture to guess most of these guys were riding for less than $120 on Sunday.

I'll be out there on either 11/6 or 11/7 whatever has the best weather that day. Perhaps we can turn a few laps together.
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one of the main reason why RideSmart has a full grid and sold out events on every track days is because of their prices.. One of the reason why I dont ride with LSTD and sometimes I ride with FL.

We all know that money talks! you're going to go to your local shop and try to pay less. See who has the best price in town? right? well... that's why we have a full house on every event. that also does play a negative effect on grid size but we also have other org you can ride with.

Our Instructors are people who we also do street riding, spend time at meets and are one of our many best friends that we can count on.

People will always cry about everything... shut up and ride!!
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hope this doesn't turn into who is the best track organizations or Ride Smart vs FL or all the other ways this normally turns into because of the people that ride those others groups.

We are one big family and all you really should care at the end of the day is... Did you have fun?
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this op is the guy who said he had his shop out there... and said he was going to spectate and offered the use of his tools and facility to anyone who needed it that day...his mention of grid size is about the most common complaint i hear when anyone talks about Ride Smart trackdays...Ride Smart is a good group and if it has a weakness, grid size is it.
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How many people are on the track if org A claims a cap of 35 riders and a 3:1 student to instructor ratio?

How many are on the track if org B has a 45 rider cap and 7:1 student to instructor ratio?

It wouldn't be that much difference if org A sold out. What are we talking, 5 riders? People go to these lightly attended events a rave about the grid size. Trust me, if they could get more people out there they would.
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lol.. Yes. We know.

The only time I run into traffic is when you see switch or babymilos or Ivan out in level 3.. Lol
Hey, I haven't ridden 3 yet.


I hope this doesn't turn into a "my org is better than your org" old tired song.
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I hope this doesn't turn into a "my org is better than your org" old tired song.
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I hope this doesn't turn into a "my org is better than your org" old tired song.
looks to be a bit late on that hope.

What bike were you on?

If the funky blue bike was yours, your riding was impressive.

Cookie Monster won coolest rider of the day.
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looks to be a bit late on that hope.

What bike were you on?

If the funky blue bike was yours, your riding was impressive.

Cookie Monster won coolest rider of the day.
I was on a solid black 2007 GSXR 600 with all red leathers that looks (to everyone) like a " tampon".

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