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Old 02-07-2007, 11:29 PM   #1
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I don't think its the clutch...

I have been having this problem with my clutch recently. One day I was at a stop light and could feel my bike pulling, even though the clutch was all the way in. Over the course of a day it got worse and worse until there was barely a difference in the clutch being in or out and I would have to kill it at stoplights to get it into neutral and I would have to start pushing it when the light turned green and drop it into gear. If i didn't turn off the bike it would either die when I came to a stop or I would have to hold the brake to keep it from rolling into the intersection. I adjusted the clutch cable at the handle and it got better but after driving for a short time it would go back to being engaged all the time, I thought it was just the clutch cable stretching out because it was old so I replaced it and adjusted the cable at the sprocket cover. Same problem, worked for a while and then the clutch went back to being engaged with the handle pulled all the way in. I adjusted it again at the handle as far as it would go, still no solution, and now when the clutch handle is almost all the way in, you can fell it almost reach its limit and stop. Anybody have a clue? :dontknow:
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Old 02-07-2007, 11:37 PM   #2
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I'm pretty sure one of the shops on here would be able to diagnose your problem. i was thinkin clutch cable needs adjusting...but i just read that you've tried it already.
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Old 02-07-2007, 11:40 PM   #3
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Good to see you posting again Carney. . .how many miles on the current clutch pack? last oil change?
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Old 02-08-2007, 12:10 AM   #4
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Haha, yeah well I guess its been a while since my last oil change, but it leaks out so steadily, I figure if I keep putting more in, its like a slow oil change... And I don't know how many mile are on the clutch basket, my speedo doesn't work, so neither does my.... odo.... anyway, I would have to say its about a year old, but it still catches hard and I can stand one up in second, no problem
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Old 02-08-2007, 12:27 AM   #5
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theres you problem stop clutching up wheelies oh yea and replace your clutch, and be sure to either buy new clutch plates or do a wax on wax off motion on the concrete with em to scuff em up
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Old 02-08-2007, 10:06 AM   #6
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It could be overfull with oil, causing the basket to drag. Did you also check / adjust the pushrod? Is the actuator worn / missing ?
Bring it by when you get some time and I'll look at the pushrod adjustment and adjust it if necessary, no charge.
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Old 02-08-2007, 10:18 AM   #7
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and Im sure Patrick or someone else would point it out to you, but dont buy the OEM clutch plates if you do replace the clutch. I had some clutch problems and one of the possible solutions I was looking at was buying new clutch plates. OEM suzuki plates were like $30 more expensive for a set than Barnett.

I didnt have to buy them though, the goblins fell out of my bike before they had to pull the friggin tranny.
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Haha, yeah well I guess its been a while since my last oil change, but it leaks out so steadily, I figure if I keep putting more in, its like a slow oil change... And I don't know how many mile are on the clutch basket, my speedo doesn't work, so neither does my.... odo.... anyway, I would have to say its about a year old, but it still catches hard and I can stand one up in second, no problem
That's not good....
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Old 02-08-2007, 10:29 AM   #10
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i prefer stock clutches on my race bikes. the ebc s like to creep and suck when you try to launch that
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Old 02-08-2007, 11:38 AM   #11
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LOL. i hear what your saying about the "slow" oil change. but the "clean oil by dillution" method only works for so long, you still need to change the oil now and then.

as far as the clutch probs, im thinking along the lines of what patrick is saying, it sounds like some tomfoolery with the pushroddyness. if the main clutch sleeve nut isnt tourqued down super tight, the adjuster wont reach the pushrod at all, causeing the clutch to always be engaged. i had similar probs with my shrad...just go buy a new bike and sell me your engine...lol.
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Old 02-08-2007, 02:14 PM   #12
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You need an engine? I have two 750 srad engines, one needs some work and the other is a turnkey with computer and harness. I have been trying to find a project to put it in, but no luck so far. So let me know if you want to look at them, or let me know if you have something to put it in. (I was kinda hopin for a shifter kart with a bolt in setup for a bike motor )
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Old 02-08-2007, 08:19 PM   #13
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Anyone? Anyone? Bueller, Bueller...
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It could be overfull with oil, causing the basket to drag. Did you also check / adjust the pushrod? Is the actuator worn / missing ?
Bring it by when you get some time and I'll look at the pushrod adjustment and adjust it if necessary, no charge.
See above. BTW, I still have your key.
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Old 02-09-2007, 09:05 PM   #15
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Oh, yeah, I need that key too, the spare is big and ugly, lol. I think I found the problem, maybe. When I snapped my chain about a year ago, it broke a couple of the mounts for the sprocket cover. I just bolted what I could and it seemed to work fine, but I thought about it and watched the cover when I pull the clutch and you can see it flex out, but not that much. It seems to me like the adjustment should have been enough to correct it, but maybe not. I am going to try and drill and tap some new holes (if there is enough metal to do it) and see if that fixes the problem.
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Old 02-09-2007, 09:20 PM   #16
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Be careful, the cases aren't that thick.
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The transmission case?
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Cause if that is what you are talking about, is it worth the risk? I just don't see another alternative
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Old 02-09-2007, 09:56 PM   #19
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Do you still have the pieces that broke off?
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No, they exited my engine at about a hundred miles an hour with my chain...
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