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Old 10-19-2012, 10:04 AM   #1
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Next Yamaha R1/R6 to be triples

So after it was discovered last week that Yamaha was building a triple cross plane crankshaft concept, this news comes to light.

http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-...les/21621.html
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Old 10-19-2012, 10:58 AM   #2
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Should be interesting.
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That's why I like Yamaha. Of the Big Fours, they can always be counted on to come up with eccentric designs. Some, like the VMax become legendary. Others, like the SRX, fade into history.

Anything not the ubiquitous Inline-4 is welcome news to me.
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I wondered if the r6 would be a triple, but the r1? Didn't see that coming.
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Hopefully Triumph will follow suit with a big Daytona
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Old 10-19-2012, 12:25 PM   #6
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Very interesting, thought I have to admit I'm actually more interested in the part of the article where they say that Honda is coming out with a V4 bike.
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...Honda is coming out with a V4 bike.
I wonder if they are talking about the rummored motogp RC212V derivative? I'm not too much of a honda fan, but that sounds like it'd be an awesome bike if they do
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Did yall read closely. It will be based on the TMAX engine! Lol

Parallel triple. Btw

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1100cc R1 and 700cc R6 triples, or should I say R7 sounds might appealing to me. No more inline4's buzzing my gonads.
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Sweet. I'll have to add it to the list of bikes I plan on owning.
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They may as well go to a triple... They already ruined the R1 engine with the cross plane bull , may as well neuter it some more by dropping a cylinder off..... Then in another couple years they'll go back to a 2 valve......finally ending up back in a flat head..

WTF are the engineers on over there?
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R1 ENGINE isn't nuetered, the US TUNE is. An ECU flash is good for 8+hp on a completely stock bike.
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A couple of items seem to be missed here... Visor Down is just a magazine that is reporting a rumor as to the future of Yamaha's triple, not a fact as Yamaha hasn't verified anything about whether the triples are actually planned replacements or possible additions to their model line. Secondly, it wouldn't be the first time that attention was focused on a particular project to mask another.

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I wonder how this is going to affect various racing organizations...
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I could trade British character for Japanese reliability for my next triple.
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They may as well go to a triple... They already ruined the R1 engine with the cross plane bull , may as well neuter it some more by dropping a cylinder off..... Then in another couple years they'll go back to a 2 valve......finally ending up back in a flat head..

WTF are the engineers on over there?
I agree with this. I didnt like the R1, because of ergos, to begin with. The cross plane engine just finished it off for me. I rode one, and came away very unimpressed. I love my screamers! (I like my bikes to scream, too.)
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They may as well go to a triple... They already ruined the R1 engine with the cross plane bull , may as well neuter it some more by dropping a cylinder off..... Then in another couple years they'll go back to a 2 valve......finally ending up back in a flat head..
No, no, no. Not flathead. 2-Stroke! Now we are talking...
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That's just it. There will always be those who prefer the inline-4 shriek. I like I4's extended RPM for the track, but for street the syncopated triple and the thumping V-twin are much more my speed. Some would also argue that V-twin's power is more "tractable" even for racing, which is why Yamaha developed the crossplane crank to mimic the power output characteristics of lesser cyl engines. This is especially critical nowadays with 250HP engines struggling to mantain traction and TC systems are almost mandary because of it. Power is not the problem; traction is. The computer can push power right up to the threshold of traction, but it cannot overcome the physical limits of what the bike can hold. So when computers can exploit even the tiniest of advantages, the better tractable power of lesser cylinder counts can become all that much more important.

Then again, every mfr's philosophy is different. Suzuki is apparently going back to I4, after long stint racing with V4. It's all candy in the end. I'm just glad to get more varieties.
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Suzuki never had any success with the gsv-r. It's no wonder they're trying something else.
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