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Old 05-19-2007, 08:05 AM   #61
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Old 05-21-2007, 11:08 AM   #62
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Just an idea of what I might like to get in the future. Suzuki Boulevard 109R dressed in white :icon_bigg

M109RK7 White FFFFFF

The styling on this thing is just breathtaking. Good power and a good amount of accessories. Not too crazy about the $1500 hard bags though lol


What cruiser would you go for?
the one you chose is what i was considering for my self. plus it looks really comfortable.
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Old 05-21-2007, 01:11 PM   #63
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I'm sorry but I at least have to go on record to say that I've been hugely disappointed with the direction that cruisers have taken. While the styling is neat on many of the newer models, the engine sizes vs. power output are absolutely ridiculous. Having a bike with an engine as big as a car but with the HP numbers many of the bikes have are just sad. I can't believe that my bike, based off 13 year old technology, still delivers better 1/4 mile times and more rear wheel power than some cruisers with engines twice its size. And when it doesn't beat them in raw power it usually beats them in HP to weight ratio.

Don't get me wrong. There are certainly advantages to larger/heavier bikes. But I want my power to increase somewhat proportionately with the weight.

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Old 05-21-2007, 02:13 PM   #64
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Old 05-21-2007, 02:27 PM   #65
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the one you chose is what i was considering for my self. plus it looks really comfortable.
Don't let that nice big seat fool you, after a couple hundred miles on the stock seat you need to go see a proctologist.. There are a few other ergo things that are annoying but can be overcome with aftermarket stuff. Other than the seat and the foot pegs it is a pretty comfortable ride. Some don't like the reach to the handlebars, I am 5'9" and I reach a little but it's not too bad. If you are shorter than I am you will be looking for risers pretty quick.

DLP has quite a bit of aftermarket stuff for the 109.

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I'm sorry but I at least have to go on record to say that I've been hugely disappointed with the direction that cruisers have taken. While the styling is neat on many of the newer models, the engine sizes vs. power output are absolutely ridiculous. Having a bike with an engine as big as a car but with the HP numbers many of the bikes have are just sad. I can't believe that my bike, based off 13 year old technology, still delivers better 1/4 mile times and more rear wheel power than some cruisers with engines twice its size. And when it doesn't beat them in raw power it usually beats them in HP to weight ratio.

Don't get me wrong. There are certainly advantages to larger/heavier bikes. But I want my power to increase somewhat proportionately with the weight.

http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/roa...son/index.html
Do you think allot of the de-tuning has to do with EPA BS? There are guys on the 109site that are seeing tremendous gains in HP with simple mods to the emisions systems, air intake systems and simple re-maps. I am sure the other sport cruiser lines see similar gains with similar mods. I am not sure what the cruiser market looked like 13 plus years ago as I am fairly new to the cruiser world.
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Old 05-21-2007, 03:33 PM   #66
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Do you think allot of the de-tuning has to do with EPA BS? There are guys on the 109site that are seeing tremendous gains in HP with simple mods to the emisions systems, air intake systems and simple re-maps. I am sure the other sport cruiser lines see similar gains with similar mods. I am not sure what the cruiser market looked like 13 plus years ago as I am fairly new to the cruiser world.
I am by no means an engine expert and couldn't testify as to the de-turning. But I don't consider any emissions restrictions to be BS. We need 'em. You can tell that by looking at the air in Houston.

I'd say some of the performance deficiencies are in the design of the engine itself. There are certainly plenty of cars and motorcycles that generate much more power from the same displacement (or less) without altering the emissions. However, none of these engines are V-twins. It seems that the manufacturers are catering to a market of Harley knock-offs only. The engines get bigger, but not more efficient.

My first bike was a 750cc v-twin. Then I got a 750cc V4. The weight of the two bikes are roughly the same, but the power difference is amazing. I picked up over 20 more HP. In contrast, A VTX 1300 has 100 extra lbs on my bike and about 15 less HP according to some stats I read. Imagine what Honda could do with a 1300cc V4? (Well they have one in the ST1300 and look at its stats.)

But at the end of the day, the other engine designs don't "sound" like a V-twin. That seems to make a big difference with some buyers. So we end up with hugely insane engine displacements and disproportionate increases in power.

But I digress. :laughing6 And I'm sure someone will disagree. All I have to say is don't put your 1300 even your 1500 V-twin up against my 750 unless you've heavily modified it. Meanwhile, I'll stick to cruising, getting 43 mpg, and working on hitting the Magna's 12.7 quarter mile time.
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Old 05-21-2007, 05:23 PM   #67
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Well its not that i disagree with you but IAH is right also. There are many things you can do to cruisers to up the HP including the stage 2 air system and a stage 3 bore kit. It is total BS that these bikes (Harleys included) come stock so tuned down. I would basically be spending roughy an extra $3000 on my bike to get it to its full potential.

It isnt a problem with the engine or the design .. its the freakin bike manufatures. They give you the slowest parts hoping you will spend the money to upgrade the vital systems to get the bike to a point that it should have been at rolling off the floor.

Thats my opinion anyways.
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Old 05-21-2007, 07:55 PM   #69
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You're right. The V-Rod is the only fast V-Twin Cruiser I would consider for my personal bike. And I like their looks as well. But considering my little Magna was only $3500 I'll be happy with it for awhile.

You've got a sweet set of bikes there.
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You're right. The V-Rod is the only fast V-Twin Cruiser I would consider for my personal bike. And I like their looks as well. But considering my little Magna was only $3500 I'll be happy with it for awhile.

You've got a sweet set of bikes there.
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You're right. The V-Rod is the only fast V-Twin Cruiser I would consider for my personal bike. And I like their looks as well. But considering my little Magna was only $3500 I'll be happy with it for awhile.

You've got a sweet set of bikes there.
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