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Old 10-03-2012, 08:27 PM   #1
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ABS Vs. Non ABS

Give me your thoughts on this. What are the pros and cons of both? Is ABS that much better?
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Old 10-03-2012, 08:42 PM   #2
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Old 10-03-2012, 08:45 PM   #3
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Old 10-03-2012, 08:50 PM   #5
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Old 10-03-2012, 08:53 PM   #6
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I wonder if abs would prevent those low speed falls that I often see when a rider is turning and grabs the front brake too hard.
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Old 10-03-2012, 09:25 PM   #7
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Does ABS make the bike heavier? And has anyone experienced the "spongy" brake feel?
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Old 10-03-2012, 10:45 PM   #8
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^^ not to nit pick your post, but the significant part of the weight difference would be the ABS actuator, but the entire weight difference shouldn't be more than 15lbs, however the majority of the weight will most lowly be up high, similar to having a second battery on your lap.
Also, on dry pavement, a tire reaches it's maximum coefficient of friction while sliding, however the slide must be minimal. With that respect, breaking with ABS should allow you to stop faster even though the tire is sliding during a percentage of the time.
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ABS brake is for handicap riders. LOL.
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http://m.sportrider.com/bikes/146_11...t/viewall.html

Here's a good review of three ABS equipped bikes (cbr, zx10, s1000rr), and states in several places that the ABS equipped CBR weighs in at Assn additional 25lbs
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:27 PM   #11
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To with ABS, it seems they need to sell those "training wheels" with bikes for those that don't know how to ride.
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:55 PM   #12
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If a bike has ABS, Traction Control is mostly just software add-on. Like it or not, ABS and TC are the future, just as they have become standard in the automotive world.
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ABS should be standard on all motorcycles but should also include an option to switch it off if you wish.
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It really depends on your riding style, most racers dont like abs at all but if you are just riding on the street and not planning to race then get the abs, it helps a lot in the wet and also loose gravel situations, it is a piece of mind but it does add weight to the bike! So for safety reasons, yes!
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Does ABS make the bike heavier? And has anyone experienced the "spongy" brake feel?
The Honda ABS adds 21 pounds to the bike. There is no feedback whatsoever through the lever or pedal, the only way to tell that the ABS has activated is that no matter how much brake pressure you apply, the wheels will not lock up.

You can apply the brakes hard while turning, though it is not recommended.

Is ABS worth the $1000 extra for a CBR? Is it worth $1000 if it keeps you from t-boning a car?
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To with ABS, it seems they need to sell those "training wheels" with bikes for those that don't know how to ride.
There was no such thing as ABS when I learned to ride, besides, it's only active when the bike senses wheel lockup.
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Does ABS make the bike heavier? And has anyone experienced the "spongy" brake feel?
The Honda ABS adds 26 pounds to the 2012 CBR (21 pounds extra on the '09). There is no feedback whatsoever through the lever or pedal, the only way to tell that the ABS has activated is that no matter how much brake pressure you apply, the wheels will not lock up.

You can apply the brakes hard while turning, though it is not recommended.

Is ABS worth the $1000 option on a CBR? Is it worth $1000 if it keeps you from t-boning a car?

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I've never been surprised by a lock up

Most people aren't braking full force most of the time and may do something wrong in a panic situation where they are suddenly pulling and pushing the brakes harder than they ever would. Or perhaps road conditions might be overlooked in the blink of an eye in a panic situation.

Such as a random patch of gravel on the road while under brakes already or a large puddle of water while under braking that would otherwise cause a front tire to slip out.

But on the other hand.

Threshold braking will reduce speed faster than abs will slow you down. This requires readjusting the brakes every time the wheel gives a small squeal. Slightly releasing and then reapplying. If practiced often should be second nature in a panic situation.

As far as I know, for cars at least, it is not designed to reduce braking distances under all conditions, but to allow for maneuverability while braking increasing overall safety given a competent driver.
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If practiced often should be second nature in a panic situation.
It should, but it's usually not

Is it true that you've been riding less than a year?
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ABS is like a gun:

I'd rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it!
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