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Old 02-02-2007, 03:58 PM   #1
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Modular helmets

you know, the ones that are full face, but the front can flip up. How do those compare to a regular full face (pros/cons)
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Old 02-02-2007, 04:02 PM   #2
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imo i would not wear one if you fall hard and it flips up your face is toast
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I have heard that in a crash the clips that hold the front down will break causing it to flip up.
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Well, Ive seen some moto cops wearing them. They are no where near as strong as a full face helmet, but when used as an option to a 3/4 open faced helmet they are definately a step up.
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theybreak don't buy one , a303 and i experimented with one
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you know, the ones that are full face, but the front can flip up. How do those compare to a regular full face (pros/cons)
con = you take a face plant to the chin and it folds up on ya
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you know, the ones that are full face, but the front can flip up. How do those compare to a regular full face (pros/cons)
there was an SAE study and it showed that if you wear a helmet your chance of dieing in a wreck is greatly reduced. It also showed it didn't matter what kind it was 1/2 to full. The reduction was the same. The difference came in on the cost of follow up care. 1/2 cost the most then 3/4 then full but the 3/4 and full were not very far apart.

I also know that all of the helmets (full face Snell) I have worn racing. That the fine print on the manual said the chin bar was a decoration. It always seemed like a very strong decoration.

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Not all flip-face helmets are . There are things to look for...

The hinges and clips that hold the front down need to be made of metal - many of the lower-end models have the parts made of plastic, which is why they flip up in the event of a face plant.

No, they are not 100% as safe as a full face. I wouldn't recommend one for the track, but for street riding at reasonable speeds, a quality flip-face helmet should be adequate.
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i personally dont like them, but a buddy of mine has one and he likes it.
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I have heard that in a crash the clips that hold the front down will break causing it to flip up.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^exactly. it happens. we tested it. not even a wreck, but me throwing it on the concrete as hard as i could.
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Old 02-05-2007, 08:25 AM   #13
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I've got a kbc FFR,its got metal latches in the chin lock & is fairly sturdy.I don't use it on the track-but great for street duty.The shoie flip up is real nice-but about twice as much as my kbc
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I wouldn't put my brain in one of those buckets unless I had to. personal preference I guess. I borrowed one from a guy at work for like a month after someone stole my full face. It served it's purpose, but I didn't have to put it to the test. Kinda noisy too. Just my 2 pennies.
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flip face= i dont know how you could think they rate as good as a full-face in a study when non of them ive heard of are snell approved!:BangHead:
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I took a face plant header at about 50 mph with a nolan modular helmet.
With a little help the ambulance attendant was able to open it up. Had a broke arm and busted up knee, Didn't even have a headache,
Have since bought another one.
Maybe should take advise from people that have used them in the past, not second hand info.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^exactly. it happens. we tested it. not even a wreck, but me throwing it on the concrete as hard as i could.
Throwing one down is the same as hitting a brick wall head first at about 40mph. If your head is in the helmet you are not going to live no matter what helmet it is.

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I took a face plant header at about 50 mph with a nolan modular helmet.
With a little help the ambulance attendant was able to open it up. Had a broke arm and busted up knee, Didn't even have a headache,
Have since bought another one.
Maybe should take advise from people that have used them in the past, not second hand info.
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face plant header = helmet hitting the ground from what ever hight the highside threw you. The picture I had posted above was from a highside in an endurance race in 2002 after turn 9 TWS (Texas World Speedway). I am thinking about 70 maybe a little faster head hit first and I am sure a modular helmet would have stood up just fine. As is shown there the helmet protects the head and neck can you picture what my neck would have looked like with out the reduced traction that the helmet gave my head.

SAE study in Ca. ~75% reduction in neck injuries among helmeted riders for similar crashes. There was more hospital cost for neck injuries (they don't treat neck injuries in the morgue) among helmeted riders.

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