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Old 10-01-2012, 01:10 PM   #1
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Should law enforcement be allowed to engage in high speed pursuits? And if so, when?

First of all this is not intended to be a thread about running from the cops. I'm a senior in high school and I was assigned a research paper today.
I decided to ask my teacher if I could research this topic and she said yes. I already have an opinion on this topic, but I would like to hear what y'all have to say. Any information (especially actual statistics) would be greatly appreciated!
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First of all this is not intended to be a thread about running from the cops. I'm a senior in high school and I was assigned a research paper today.
I decided to ask my teacher if I could research this topic and she said yes. I already have an opinion on this topic, but I would like to hear what y'all have to say. Any information (especially actual statistics) would be greatly appreciated!
Yes and they should be allowed to kill the as a legitimate method of stopping him.

Yes, there MIGHT be an innocent in the car with him, but unless that is a known fact, the cops should feel free to stop him anyway they can.
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That's a good question.

In 1 hand, I say no, cuz it's dangerous for others on the road.

On the 2nd hand, if a thief stole my bike, I'd root for the cops to chase the thief down and serve justice. Gimme my back.

edit: I wasn't even thinkin about "cars". I was thinkin about bikes
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Old 10-01-2012, 01:16 PM   #4
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My position is chase until a helicopter arrives, but I know helis are expensive. Either shadow the suspect while the helicopter does the work, or look up the license plate number and find an address. (I know that wouldn't work in a car theft situation.)
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yes, it is part of the reality of life,,,, if you let the bad guys run with no one chasing them...then that is what they will do everytime...collateral damage is also part of life...and i think any damage that happens during that high speed chase should be added to what ever other charges the running bad guy would have against him.
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Old 10-01-2012, 01:18 PM   #6
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Also include if you think motorcycles should be chased
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yeah they should!! Its one of the perks of being a cop chasing down the shoplifter that just stole some socks from Sears.
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Old 10-01-2012, 01:20 PM   #8
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yes, they should also be allowed to PIT bikes and use spike strips on them too.


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I believe high speed chases are more dangerous than a speeding suspect.

I say yes, but only in a situation where a crime took place and then took to the road.
Or a rampage situation.
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what statistics are you looking for? are you thinking about safety of bystanders, safety of the runner? cost Vs reward? which giving mother are you looking to make happy?
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I believe high speed chases are more dangerous than a speeding suspect.

I say yes, but only in a situation where a crime took place and then took to the road.
Or a rampage situation.
This is in some ways what I believe
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what statistics are you looking for? are you thinking about safety of bystanders, safety of the runner? cost Vs reward? which giving mother are you looking to make happy?
Honestly anything, both sides would be good because I need evidence to refute in my paper!
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that is my question.. where is the paper headed, what point are you trying to make or refute? it is pretty simple in my mind, no statistics needed, bad guy commits crime, cops chase him down, beat his and take him in...maybe he won't run next time....usually the only folks taking up this arguement are who have not had enough , or men who don't have one...
i reallly am not in favor of a high speed chase thru traffic for a minor traffic violation type thing, but then again who runs for a minor traffic violation, usually someone who does not want to get caught for something else...so where do you draw the line...
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that is my question.. where is the paper headed, what point are you trying to make or refute? it is pretty simple in my mind, no statistics needed, bad guy commits crime, cops chase him down, beat his and take him in...maybe he won't run next time....usually the only folks taking up this arguement are who have not had enough , or men who don't have one...


i reallly am not in favor of a high speed chase thru traffic for a minor traffic violation type thing, but then again who runs for a minor traffic violation, usually someone who does not want to get caught for something else...so where do you draw the line...
BUT?

Plenty of retards that are out there doing stupid on a daily basis. They will get caught soon enough so why risk them or a officer killing a innocent person/persons riding down the street.
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i dont believe cops should be able to shoot out motorcycle tires though, its completely different. when you shoot out a car tire you disable the vehicle, when you shoot out a motorcycle tire you could (and likely will) throw the rider off the bike and likely kill him/her

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Plenty of retards that are out there doing stupid on a daily basis. They will get caught soon enough so why risk them or a officer killing a innocent person/persons riding down the street.
This. I think it is a very over looked aspect that "an object in motion stays in motion" if you will, so to speak. How many times have you heard about the crook getting away with one crime only moments later, committing another and getting busted...crooks do crooked and they typically keep going on their "winning spree" until they get busted. I let it go full circle and cops should ultimately take advantage of this more often.
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i dont believe cops should be able to shoot out motorcycle tires though, its completely different. when you shoot out a car tire you disable the vehicle, when you shoot out a motorcycle tire you could (and likely will) throw the rider off the bike and likely kill him/her
I actually dont have a problem with that. Its the innocent people minding their own business dying that bothers me.
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i dont believe cops should be able to shoot out motorcycle tires though, its completely different. when you shoot out a car tire you disable the vehicle, when you shoot out a motorcycle tire you could (and likely will) throw the rider off the bike and likely kill him/her
Rider should have thought of that when he ran.


the rider. I hate that riders think they get special treatment.
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I'm still waiting for the portable EMP gun. BZZZZZTBLAM!, no electronic circuits and the car/bike dies. Vehicle owner's insurance pays for the fried vehicle and charges the thief or runner.
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I'm still waiting for the portable EMP gun. BZZZZZTBLAM!, no electronic circuits and the car/bike dies. Vehicle owner's insurance pays for the fried vehicle and charges the thief or runner.
Not nearly as much fun for the cops. The Poops crowd would disagree with that as well.
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