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Old 09-27-2012, 01:44 PM   #1
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the real cost of no-helmets, CDC report

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Helmet Use Among Motorcyclists Who Died in Crashes and Economic Cost Savings Associated With State Motorcycle Helmet Laws—United States, 2008–2010

The findings indicated that, on average, 12% of fatally injured motorcyclists were not wearing helmets in states with universal helmet laws, compared with 64% in partial helmet law states (laws that only required specific groups, usually young riders, to wear helmets) and 79% in states without a helmet law.
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So, what you're saying is, either way, you're still going to die? Only in states that have helmet laws, more riders die wearing helmets... Interesting find.



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I wonder what percentage rate was between SS riders and cruiser riders
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That article is kind of deceiving (unless I'm reading it wrong). It's saying that in states that had stricter helmet laws, there were less deaths by people not wearing helmets?

I'm actually surprised at the 12% being so high, and would think the 79% would be higher in the states with no helmet laws.
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I dont give a what any report says.

My helmet saved MY life. End of story.

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That article is kind of deceiving (unless I'm reading it wrong). It's saying that in states that had stricter helmet laws, there were less deaths by people not wearing helmets?

I'm actually surprised at the 12% being so high, and would think the 79% would be higher in the states with no helmet laws.
All this article is saying that if you live in a state with a firm helmet law, you're only 12% likely to DIE while NOT wearing a helmet - the other 88% who died WERE wearing their helmets. Those percentages change when the laws change... odd article really - kind of stating the obvious.

In states where helmet laws were only partial (to young riders, etc) then more people died while not wearing helmets than in places where there were no helmet laws. That bit was interesting.

The article gave no mention of non-fatality injuries.
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All this article is saying that if you live in a state with a firm helmet law, you're only 12% likely to DIE while NOT wearing a helmet
So everyone who wants to ride without a helmet should move to a place with strict helmet laws.

That way when they ride without a helmet, they only have a 12% chance of dying if they crash.
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That is yet another useless study paid for (one way or another) by the tax payers or healthcare consumers, to tell me something so effing obvious my left little toe could've figured it out.
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Helmet Use Among Motorcyclists Who Died in Crashes and Economic Cost Savings Associated With State Motorcycle Helmet Laws—United States, 2008–2010

The findings indicated that, on average, 12% of fatally injured motorcyclists were not wearing helmets in states with universal helmet laws, compared with 64% in partial helmet law states (laws that only required specific groups, usually young riders, to wear helmets) and 79% in states without a helmet law.
I only read the part you quoted, but this is a bit empty without more context.

All this is saying, that in places where people are required to wear helmets, a smaller percentage of deaths happen to due to not wearing a helmet. Well, no . That's kind of obvious.

Something like what percentage of motorcycle accidents result in death in those locations would be a bit more telling. i.e. did forcing people to wear helmets reduce motorcycle related deaths?
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It is interesting but what this tells me is that more people die of head injuries in Car crashes than motorcycles.

So by the numbers it would not make more sense to force people in cars to wear helmets.

What does "universal helmet laws" mean anyway. Apperently not so universal if it only applies to some and not others.

Head injuries are mostly from automobile acidients and falls. If you like to ride without a helmet, just think that a motocycle crash is always you fall too.

If your going 30 mph, thats how fast youd be going if you jumped off a 30 ft high building when you hit the ground. If you are going faster than you can run than you want to think about head protection.

As for the article, it is interesting, but rather than pulling from statisics on head injuries, which would make sense in a discsusion about helemts. They start with counting the numlber of fatalies on motocycles in genral, which could be from getting run over, and then compare them to states with helmet laws and by percentage of number of miles traveled. This way it paints a picture of a dangerous and costly leisure activity.
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