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Old 09-24-2012, 03:22 PM   #1
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How many miles until switching to synthetic oil?

I have a 2010 R1 with 1030 miles. At what mileage should I switch to a full synthetic oil? I'm running MOTUL 3000 in it right now.
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Old 09-24-2012, 03:30 PM   #2
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after 5k in general.

The following is the oil History of my bike for your information
0 ~ 5000 mi : Yamalube (32 ~ 34 MPG)
5000 ~ 14000 mi : Retella T6 (31 ~ 34 MPG) ==> Don't ask.
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Later : thinking abt AMSoil
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Old 09-24-2012, 03:35 PM   #4
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I doubt factory owner's manual is going to say something about switching to synthetic oil. Conventional wisdom says to use regular oil until the engine is broken in, but there are cars that come brand new with synthetic oil in the crankcase (Porsche and Corvette, IIRC). So this "engine won't break in properly cus synthetic is too slippery" spiel probably don't hold water.

I use regular oil for the first one/two oil changes mostly for the cost savings. Synthetic oils have gotten expensive, expecially the motorcycle ones. Since I don't expect to be very hard on the engine during break-in, there is no need to pay more for the "extra protection".
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Old 09-24-2012, 06:03 PM   #7
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The whole "cant break in with synthetic" or "cant switch back after synthetic" issue stems from the fact that todays syn blends are made with a process that is far superior to those back in the 70's. During those times the syn. oils would cause certain gaskets to swell and when you switch back to conventional oil it would cause your engine to weep oil at the head gasket namely, among other places. (dont quote me word for word but i read this on some "Joes everything about oil" website)

needless to say that is not the case now adays as the above poster has stated, but i would still be weary about putting syn in your ride at such an early mileage. I'd honestly wait until you get your first valve adjustment before putting syn in and i've practically used them all in my bike and i've found that rotella conventional motor oil works just as good for my sv650 as amsoil does. and at the price the differences are easily over-looked. and rather minute.

edit: and shell's rotella is also JASO - MA rated. as well as SM
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Its broken in and the rings are seated. Change it when you want IMO
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Old 09-24-2012, 06:14 PM   #9
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I have a 2010 R1 with 1030 miles. At what mileage should I switch to a full synthetic oil? I'm running MOTUL 3000 in it right now.
In that 1030 miles, have you redlined the ?
If so, a few times?

If yes, she's as broken in as she is gonna get. Go synthetic, Rotella, Amsoil, Motul, motorcycle speciifc oils, or whatever oil thread oil makes you happy.
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I started using royal purple 20-50 in my1300 vstar at 21,000 , no problems .
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Old 09-25-2012, 08:14 AM   #12
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You guys do know that "Synthetic" is just a more refined "regular oil"? There only two or three "real" synthetic oils on the market. If you will remember (if you are old enough) about ten years ago, there was only a couple synthetic oils on the market. There was another big lawsuit and the goverment said in order for an oil to be classified as synthetic, it had to reach e certain "impurity level" The large manufacturers found that they could reach this level by further refining of their existing stock and label it "synthetic". Mobile 1 was not happy, and all the other brands began marketing synthetic and semi-synthetic blends.
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I switched to synthetic after 6,000 miles and the sun started shining and birds started singing!
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Unless you know exactly how the first 1030 miles were driven, no sense worrying about it.
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Many new cars leave the factory with synthetic oil these days. Don't waste too much time worrying bout it
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Its broken in and the rings are seated. Change it when you want IMO
This.

The truth be told, the engine on your bike is broken in after you've run it up to normal heat and held it for 20 minutes or so. You can safely switch out of the break-in oil at any time.

Most manufacturers don't want you to do anything for 500 miles, or a thousand miles, but it's not because your engine isn't broken in. They want an individual test period on each vehicle before the vehicle is run a little harder and faster.
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The truth be told, the engine on your bike is broken in after you've run it up to normal heat and held it for 20 minutes or so. You can safely switch out of the break-in oil at any time.

Most manufacturers don't want you to do anything for 500 miles, or a thousand miles, but it's not because your engine isn't broken in. They want an individual test period on each vehicle before the vehicle is run a little harder and faster.
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Unless you know exactly how the first 1030 miles were driven, no sense worrying about it.
The first 600 were babied. After that i rode with gary. I'm thinking it might be broken in. lmao
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