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Old 01-31-2007, 03:37 PM   #61
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hey I have a quick question for you guys.....


WHERE THE **** IS CAUCASIA?????? We all hear people using this term to be politically correct,"white folk are caucasian," but where the is caucasia????
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WHERE THE **** IS CAUCASIA?????? We all hear people using this term to be politically correct,"white folk are caucasian," but where the is caucasia????

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Old 01-31-2007, 03:44 PM   #64
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WHERE THE **** IS CAUCASIA?????? We all hear people using this term to be politically correct,"white folk are caucasian," but where the is caucasia????
Actually it goes back to anthropology and the idea that there are only three types of people in the world. Negroid, Caucazoid, Mongoloid. Caucazoid's are characteristically white. Black's are characteristically Negroid. And Chinese, Indian and others are Mongoloid. Mexicans are a variation of both Caucazoid's and Mongoloid because of their Spanish and Native South American Indian ancestry. Not Politically correct, just scientific terminology.
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Actually it goes back to anthropology and the idea that there are only three types of people in the world. Negroid, Caucazoid, Mongoloid. Caucazoid's are characteristically white. Black's are characteristically Negroid. And Chinese, Indian and others are Mongoloid. Mexicans are a variation of both Caucazoid's and Mongoloid because of their Spanish and Native South American Indian ancestry. Not Politically correct, just scientific terminology.
Therefore, technically speaking, Caucasia can be considered to be Europe.
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So do you think it is wrong to frankly bring it to those students who participated in the parties attention that what they were doing was wrong? And I hate political correctness so no I do not want there to be a law against it. (I'd personally much rather address the shyt my self but I'm a bit confrontational)
i honestly cant say because i was not at the party, you should know as well as i do that the media likes hide details from people, to make the party worse than it was. where they wrong in throwing the party? probably. i think that the punishment should be decided by students at the school who know the jack that threw the party, i dont think its my place or your place to decide wht their punishment is because we were not there
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i honestly cant say because i was not at the party, you should know as well as i do that the media likes hide details from people, to make the party worse than it was. where they wrong in throwing the party? probably. i think that the punishment should be decided by students at the school who know the jack that threw the party, i dont think its my place or your place to decide wht their punishment is because we were not there
Firstly-with regard to my last question-I am speaking at a personal level. What I mean is that if you knew these people personally, and you saw pictures of them in Blackface, is it wrong to prompt them as to how you felt about their behavior? And as far as facts and the media are concerned. There is no media spin possible at that juncture, atleast as it pertains to the pictures-taken of the parties by the individuals who attended-that we can full well see. It is not as if those in the media photoshopped the outfits onto their bodies and 40 ounces into their hands. They were, at the very least, aware of what it was they were wearing and that is indeed the problem. They were in blackface, and not all of them were, but I am referring to those that were. Lastly, I am not trying to decide what punishment the school or any other entity should enforce on those that went to the party. What I am, however, trying to say is that it IS my place to put someone in their place if I feel that what it is they are doing is disrespectful or offensive to myself or someone else that is either not willing or unable to do it for themselves.
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Perhaps, but it definately cannot be compared to the magnitude at which Native Americans in the US have experienced.
Be glad that whitey didn't try to wipe you out like they did my people
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Perhaps, but it definately cannot be compared to the magnitude at which blacks in the US have experienced.
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Pretty sure this is a racial slur.
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Funny how this stupid got more media attention than the nine (9) black kids that beat three white girls half to death. All while shouting "moth@#$%$ing white , I hate white people".

BTW - They aren't getting jailtime for this. They got CS, probation, and house arrest. The parents and local community are protesting the sentence.

http://www.presstelegram.com/news/ci_5095169
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Funny how this stupid got more media attention than the nine (9) black kids that beat three white girls half to death. All while shouting "moth@#$%$ing white , I hate white people".

BTW - They aren't getting jailtime for this. They got CS, probation, and house arrest. The parents and local community are protesting the sentence.

http://www.presstelegram.com/news/ci_5095169
...what the 's the matter with people? i guess hatred's contagious because reading stories like this makes me want to hurt these stupid racist ****s. i think the most important thing anyone can do is think for themselves. racism's a byproduct of conformity and stupidity, but unfortunately these are dominant forces in the world.
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I know huh? I mean, after reading that, I dont have a biased opinion about "african americans" but a hatred to rascism and to acts of violence due to rascism. Plus the fact that there were gangs out there trying to intimidate the defendant or witness........people like this make me want to go enact my own vigilante justice and rid the world of scum like this......
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Interesting topic, and a difficult one to keep from getting emotional about. Clearly the two stories highligted in this thread are not turly comparative, the one about the parties being non-violent and the one about the beating obviously violent. That said I am sure that without much trouble we could dig up similar stories of recent racially motivated violence against blacks and instances of groups of blacks behaving in a way that would be considered demeaning towards whites.

What I am pretty sure of is that ther are probably kids at that party that knew what they were doing was offensive, some of them may have been happy with that, while others were probably less comfortable. I'm sure many of them would say that they have black friends and that they are not racist, though I wonder if they would have gone by their house dressed as they were, or invited them to the party.

I am also pretty sure that some of those black kids that took part in that beating were not comfortable with what was going on but did it anyway.

It is times like those, when peer pressure, group mentality, etc are the greatest and the easiest thing to do is too go along with the flow that personal courage, principles, and charachter are the only thing that separates us from the rest of the animal kindgdom.

Hate is intoxicating, violence is as well. Group hate and group violence can provide a sense of togetherness, belonging, and purpose. False and misguided as they may be, the lure is there for those willing to partake, too justify their actions by looking towards the group for support and to deny thier own conscience.

The man that broke up the fight was black, the black woman who testified against the teens even after being threatened and itimidated by a local black gang, shows courage and honesty, and most of all hope for all of us.

How insane we feel the Sunnis and Shia in Iraq are for fighting amongst themselves...

A couple of books I am reminded of are Among the Thugs about English futball supporters and The Territorial Imperitive, an oldy but a goody about the origins and causes of wars and violence in human history.

As far as what the schools should do about 'blackface parties' - I think that the schools should be allowed to establish thier own policies but you have to be careful about how to establish rules. Clearly this is not something you would want being allowed at a school sponsored activity or by recognized school organizations such as frats and sorrorities, but what people do in their own homes...

I can also see some questions about where the line drawing is in trying to regulate this type of activity. Frats are also known do throw 'white trash' parties (the one above seems to qualify for that one even if unintended). Some things that seem easy to 'regulate' are often complex when it gets down to brass tacks. However, I think most schools do have policies in place that would have prohibited this type of party being held on campus or by a school sponsored or associated org.

Good topic.
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