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Old 01-30-2007, 03:43 PM   #21
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I would disagree with that part of your statement, other than that I would agree that a party like that is disgusting and should not be allowed to happen, and sanctions at the very least after the fact.
Perhaps, but it definately cannot be compared to the magnitude at which blacks in the US have experienced.
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Perhaps, but it definately cannot be compared to the magnitude at which blacks in the US have experienced.
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It is one thing to make fun of a race of people and do it equally amongst all races, however, it is different when considering the history of blackface and how deep those wounds go within the black community. Hawaiians(sp?) for example did not have a history of being patronized by their white counterparts.
i back u up on that one but not 100% because racism is in every race

not only whites, i know what they did is idiotic, but lot of times we get the same thing from black people.

is a never end story :eh:
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i back u up on that one but not 100% because racism is in every race

not only whites, i know what they did is idiotic, but lot of times we get the same thing from black people.

is a never end story :eh:
I don't advocate racism period, regardless of it's source. Black racists are equally as ignorant in my eyes as are white racists'. What I was saying was that there was a fundamental difference in making fun of each other and partaking in the portrayal of blackface.
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I think that everytime someone brings up something that isolates themselves from the rest of the world, whether it be by race, , disability, etc... it just adds fuel to the fire and continues to divide everyone even more. As long as people, partiularly the minorities, continue isolating themselves by calling themselves black, hispanic, white or whatever just provides a way to divide themselves. I think that if society ignored these things, like reporting the parties and making a big deal about it the world would be a better place.
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^^^^ agreed but are you sure that wasnt any black people at the party? for most of them im sure that they where just making fun of the stereotype, now the one that actually painted their faces, yea i think thats ****ed up, and was to far

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It is one thing to make fun of a race of people and do it equally amongst all races, however, it is different when considering the history of blackface and how deep those wounds go within the black community.
ok the first part of this says" it is on thing to make fun of a race of and do it equally" if this college is like every other college in the united states than this is what they are doing. would greeks get mad because of a toga party. or hawiians with the tiki party, or how about sanctioned nerd days at schools,
like bellaire high, im sure the math club isnt going to get offended. making fun of stereotypes is what many younger people do. its a way to have fun as long as its not taken to far. which some of these people did, so equallity huh? so you can make fun of every race or stereotype as long as its not aimed towards blacks or african americans.

like i said some of them went to far, which was ****ed up, im just trying to give you more to think about, then just those white kids should be punished for throwing a theme party
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I think that everytime someone brings up something that isolates themselves from the rest of the world, whether it be by race, , disability, etc... it just adds fuel to the fire and continues to divide everyone even more. As long as people, partiularly the minorities, continue isolating themselves by calling themselves black, hispanic, white or whatever just provides a way to divide themselves. I think that if society ignored these things, like reporting the parties and making a big deal about it the world would be a better place.
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As long as people, partiularly the minorities, continue isolating themselves by calling themselves black, hispanic, white or whatever just provides a way to divide themselves. I think that if society ignored these things, like reporting the parties and making a big deal about it the world would be a better place.
How do the minorities isolate themselves by calling themselves what they are. It is simply a means of establishing who and what you are, not a means of isolating ones self. We are put on this earth to be different so there is nothing wrong with distinguishing ones self or having pride in your culture so long as you exhibit a mutual respect for your counterparts of other races. If we simply turn our cheek as if it wasn't happening then those that partake in such activities would consider it to be a social norm and was acceptable when infact, it is not. Allowing for individuals to conduct themselves in such a manner without any reprimand would take us back decades. Were the men and women who played signicant and insignicant parts of the black civil rights movement in the 60's to simply turn the other cheek and ignore what was going on at the time, then we would be a completely different society today. No you do not simply ignore individuals who are ignorant of whatever it is that they are doing that is offensive, you bring it to their attention.
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ok the first part of this says" it is on thing to make fun of a race of and do it equally" if this college is like every other college in the united states than this is what they are doing.
Blackface is not simply making fun of a race of people, it is the malignant ridicule of a race of people which began with then intent to ingrain into a generation and those generations to follow, the inferiority of a race of people. To compare this disparagement to that of light-hearted joking is befuddling.

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would greeks get mad because of a toga party. or hawiians with the tiki party, or how about sanctioned nerd days at schools
So I suppose a toga or tiki party is comparative to someone not black, painting themself black with black shoe polish, using red lip stick to create extraordinarily ridiculously large lips, wearing a wig made up of wool and presenting oneself in a manner stereotypically false of a particular race of people. I don't think so. Also, are those items presented in the former commonly considered negatively connotated? No.


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Initially, blackface performers were part of traveling troupes who performed in minstrel shows. In addition to music and dance, minstrel shows featured comical skits in which performers portrayed buffoonish, lazy, superstitious black characters who were cowardly and lascivious, who stole, lied pathologically, and mangled the English language. Such troupes in the early days of minstrelsy were all male, so cross-dressing white men also played black women who often were either unappealingly and grotesquely mannish; in the matronly, mammy mold; or highly sexually provocative.
Is that consistant with yourself or most other blacks that you know? I sincerely hope not.

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like bellaire high, im sure the math club isnt going to get offended. making fun of stereotypes is what many younger people do. its a way to have fun as long as its not taken to far. which some of these people did, so equallity huh? so you can make fun of every race or stereotype as long as its not aimed towards blacks or african americans.
You assume a bit much. As I said before, there is a diference between comedy and Blackface. Read up on the history partna. It is not O K. I don't mind white comedians making fun of blacks just like I don't mind mexicans making fun of blacks. We all have our quirks and the shyt is funny, but to take it to the level of somethin such as blackface is ludicrous.

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like i said some of them went to far, which was ****ed up, im just trying to give you more to think about, then just those white kids should be punished for throwing a theme party
Already thought about it, there is nothing O K about a blackface party.
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How do the minorities isolate themselves by calling themselves what they are. It is simply a means of establishing who and what you are, not a means of isolating ones self.

thats exactly how they isolate themselves "It is simply a means of establishing who and what you are"and what you are not. why do you feel the need to establish who you are and aren't, why cant people just be different for who they are? not worry about what race someone is or what color, and until the day comes when people forget all about what race of people is what, then there will be this kind of going on right here, the past is the past it makes us who we are, but somepeople are stuck in the past and need to wake up and look to the future, like i do with out all this bullshit about race and color and differences. some people just need to grow the **** up plain and simple
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thats exactly how they isolate themselves "It is simply a means of establishing who and what you are"and what you are not. why do you feel the need to establish who you are and aren't, why cant people just be different for who they are? not worry about what race someone is or what color, and until the day comes when people forget all about what race of people is what, then there will be this kind of going on right here, the past is the past it makes us who we are, but somepeople are stuck in the past and need to wake up and look to the future, like i do with out all this bullshit about race and color and differences. some people just need to grow the **** up plain and simple
So we divide and isolate ourselves by being proud of our individual histories and cultures? By that logic you very own argument is flawed in that you are advocating that people should just be different for who rather than what they are. This is only another form of isolation, are we to advocate one kind of isolation while supressing the tendancy for another. As humans we are intrinsically different and we look for the differences in each other, this will never change. Rather than degrading one another for negative stereotypes that have proven over the years to be false, we should be uplifting one another and working toward that mutual respect for one another that I spoke of earlier. The fact that you are black, you will ALWAYS be seen as black. Someone will ALWAYS see you as black. Believe what you want but that is the honest truth. Therefore, bering black is a part of who you are, never forget it. And I'm not sure if you are associating me with being stuck in the past or not but I will take this time to reassure you that I am not. I will not, however, ever forget about the past and the things that we as blacks experienced here in the US because to forget is to do a disservice to all those men and women that suffered and died because of the color of their skin (Think Emmit Till, Rowland, The Birmingham Bombing, Jim Crow laws ). We as a society are to learn from our history and try never make the same mistakes again. To ignore this history is to allow the opportunity for its reemergence.
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How do the minorities isolate themselves by calling themselves what they are. It is simply a means of establishing who and what you are, not a means of isolating ones self.

thats exactly how they isolate themselves "It is simply a means of establishing who and what you are"and what you are not. why do you feel the need to establish who you are and aren't, why cant people just be different for who they are? not worry about what race someone is or what color, and until the day comes when people forget all about what race of people is what, then there will be this kind of going on right here, the past is the past it makes us who we are, but somepeople are stuck in the past and need to wake up and look to the future, like i do with out all this bullshit about race and color and differences. some people just need to grow the **** up plain and simple

my toughts exactly.

now another example. some times i read here about illegals. im part mexican, and i am not in any way ofended by that

i know illegals r braking the law and so, so why putting myself in a situation that doesnt belong to me?

if u laugh at a mexican ( just an example) i wont get in the middle and be mad or anything, i am mature enough to understand why ppl dont like illegals and why ppl make fun of mexicans

if they r doing something wrong then they pay for it not me

if someone ridiculize a mexican well , not only mexicans get it

all races get the same bully so im ok with that. and i like a good joke

to be honest i watch carlos mencia and he cracks me up
sometimes he goes over the board but is just fun intended
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im not saying to forget the past, but time and time again the past is held over peoples heads because of they're racist ancestors,
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There have been some very heated debates concerning the need for Virginia to apologize for it's role in slavery.
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There have been some very heated debates concerning the need for Virginia to apologize for it's role in slavery.
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i think those were errors of the past and the past must be left on the past

we are not doing it anymore so why always going back to the past
live the present

those thing will never happen anymore
now if we want to fix the past then lets give the land back to the indians
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So any views on the debate in VA about the state apologizing for slavery? Pro or Con?
On the one hand I think it is ridiculous because the state no longer endorses or partakes in slavery. And to continue to harp on ssomething from a hundred years ago is not moving forward and henders the progress that we've made as a society. On the other, I can see where those that would like it are coming from in that the state at one time was a signicant actor in the process of slave trade and the like. In the end, I think it is a waste of time that can be better spent dealing with current state issues...
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