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Old 09-10-2012, 05:27 PM   #21
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Europeans probably say the same thing. Why don't we get bikes the north americans get.
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Europeans probably say the same thing. Why don't we get bikes the north americans get.

I highly doubt that.
Japanese...probably since they are so restrictive on licensing for big CC bikes.

Not the Eoropeans though.
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I highly doubt that.
Japanese...probably since they are so restrictive on licensing for big CC bikes.

Not the Eoropeans though.
The promise of a big-big-bore streetfighter, (or was it a supermoto with the mother of all engines?) ended up splitting into two different and somewhat diluted versions. Americans got their low & mean 1700 Road Warrior to play with, while Europe had to be content with a...mmm... how to call it? A naked power standard? Urban retro cruiser? Big pseudo-trailie-on-acid? Enter the BT1100 Bulldog.
http://www.motorcycle.com/manufactur...dog-14318.html
It would be great if we did have an equal playing field though.
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Other than more mutations of cruisers than there are flu virus, I can't think of too many notable bikes that sold in NA but not in Europe.
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The promise of a big-big-bore streetfighter, (or was it a supermoto with the mother of all engines?) ended up splitting into two different and somewhat diluted versions. Americans got their low & mean 1700 Road Warrior to play with, while Europe had to be content with a...mmm... how to call it? A naked power standard? Urban retro cruiser? Big pseudo-trailie-on-acid? Enter the BT1100 Bulldog.
http://www.motorcycle.com/manufactur...dog-14318.html
It would be great if we did have an equal playing field though.
I dig the Bulldog, big time. Very similar to one of my favorite bikes in the '90s - Suzuki VX800. The naked V-twin "standard" just looks right to me. The term "torque sport" is sometimes used to described these new crop of big-engined nakeds that make no pretension of competing in the HP rat race. They are for the riders that would like a cruiser power plant without the cruiser frame.

Guzzi seems to be the only purveyor of such machines here in the US.
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It's air- and oil-cooled. Not sure anything can be purely air-cooled and still meet emissions (EPA etc.) these days. Even Harley is working on water-cooled heads.

I think an oil cooler looks perfectly fine on a retro bike. Oil cooler kits were available for most air-cooled bikes back in the days. I installed one on my Yamaha Maxim XJ650.
Nice!

What's annoying is when manufacturers have an obviously oil/water cooled motor, and yet they'll design heat sinks and fins in the motor for asthetic reasons.
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Nice!

What's annoying is when manufacturers have an obviously oil/water cooled motor, and yet they'll design heat sinks and fins in the motor for asthetic reasons.
Funny you mention that. Iwas wondering if the fins provide addiitional cooling or is it strictly esthetic?
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I'm pretty sure cylinders fins on an air/oil-cooled engine do serve a purpose. I can't think of an engine that is 100% oil-cooled, as oil is not really a good heat transfer medium. The oil cooling is used mostly to augment the primary air cooling. Some V-twins use oil cooling to lower the rear cylinder temp, since it tends to get less air flow. Likewise for the middle cylinders on a inline4.

What's goofy are the cylinders fins on a liquid-cooled engine. Those are purely cosmetic.
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I'm pretty sure cylinders fins on an air/oil-cooled engine do serve a purpose. I can't think of an engine that is 100% oil-cooled, as oil is not really a good heat transfer medium. The oil cooling is used mostly to augment the primary air cooling. Some V-twins use oil cooling to lower the rear cylinder temp, since it tends to get less air flow. Likewise for the middle cylinders on a inline4.

What's goofy are the cylinders fins on a liquid-cooled engine. Those are purely cosmetic.
I would still think that fins on a liquid cooled bike would have benefit since there is more surface area. In a bike with fairings not do much.
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