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Old 01-29-2007, 10:03 PM   #1
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Drugtesting for Welfare???

Just a thought, but why is it that i have to undergo drug screening at my place of employment, and i have to pay federal and state taxes so that our govt can use a portion of MY paycheck to assist those who do not assist themselves? Why is there not a system in place for drug testing the people who sit on their all day getting high and wasting my tax dollars b/c they're too lazy to work for themselves? If i have to take a drug screen to work, why don't they make others take a drugscreen to pick up the check that I worked for? I'm all about helping those who help themselves. On the other hand I'm all about watching those who are not willing to help themselves rot away. What are your thoughts on this? Am i thinking too far out of the box here? Maybe it's just me, but it irritates the $hit out of me that some of my precious tax dollars are wasted on wasted lives. Let the ****ers shrivel up and die, or get off their and contribute to society. Is there anyone out there i/we should write to about this? Do said person even give a ?!?! What are your thoughts?
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Old 01-29-2007, 10:18 PM   #2
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Difficult to enforce "forced birth control".
Jet has a point, before you get your check you have to pass a wiz quiz.
No pass, no check that simple, plus you face charges for illegal drug use, I know it sounds simplistic but it works for me.
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Old 01-29-2007, 10:20 PM   #3
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great idea, I am amazed at how many people get away with abusing the system. Almost makes me want to slap a ho
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, my family grew up with nothing.....but we didn't sit around on our collecting free money. we worked for everything we had and have now. those ungrateful bastards who think they got the check comin to them need to think twice. when that check stops, they won't have .

i really don't see how people can live like that? i mean , don't they want nice things in life? don't they want to be able to provide for their family and live comfortably? selfish SOB's. they don't give two about their family or have any self-respect for themselves. sitting on your , collecting a check because you think somebody owe's it to you is not the way a proud man/woman could ever live. yeah, some people do need the help. we've all been down before, but at least we have the decency to pick ourselves back up. take the check, use it, but don't abuse it. freeloaders make me sick.
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So what do we have to do to fix the system? Seriously? I don't think I'm asking too much. . .
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even though drug tests really don't cost that much...it would cost the government probably about $5,000 to drug test each welfare check receiver. and they'd come up with ridiculous numbers and say, "who gives a what they spend the welfare money on, it would cost us more to get them off their , we'll just give them some money, and put more in our pockets"
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If we're already giving them a check, revoke the check and use the funds to cover testing supplies? this country is becoming a breeding ground of criminals and lowlifes. I'm fuggin tired of it. We created this mess, we need to do something about it.
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i hate drug tests, but it does seem fair if you're getting a free check out of the deal to at least have to buy a masking agent or tape a condom of and a heat pack on your leg.:dontknow:
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Write your congressman and start a grass roots movement. Get support behind it and get the ball rolling.
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I know i support it. I also support them having to report their kids grades in school and attendance if they are not up to par then they are dropped from welfare. also they should have police escorted random checks on housing so that if a man is found living there they will be kicked out and cannot be on welfare ever again. i think that would create more jobs in the form of welfare inspectors. also if you're illegal you don't get welfare PERIOD! i DON'T GIVE A IF YOU DROPPED A BABY ON THIS SOIL OR NOT YOU DON'T GET .
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Old 01-30-2007, 11:24 AM   #12
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DAMNNNNNN I am glad you guys see it too....$hit I was starting to wonder if I was the only one. We're all gettin' raped here! So, is welfare come from the Feds or the State? If it were the state, it may be a little easier to do something about. However, you still need money.... money = power (<---truth)
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That's a good idea. I think that if you're convicted of a crime while on welfare that they can revoke it. This isn't too far out of line from that.
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whoop !!!!

now your talking...

maybe they should make them take the birth control shots before they can pick up their checks!
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the argument is they shouldn't have government telling them what they can and can't do. BUT if government is paying your way they should be able to tell you what you can and can't do. Kind of a you living in my under my roof sort of thing.
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Yep, write all of your elected officials and start to get some support (in numbers) behind your cause. I'm pretty sure a significant enough amount of people will back you because I don't think that it is too much to ask that you simply take a drug test to get your "free money". I'm even in the line of thinking that Paniro offered, if all you do is sit at home and watch TV all day, you are more than capable of ensuring your kids succeed in school. , you may learn something in the process.
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the argument is they shouldn't have government telling them what they can and can't do. BUT if government is paying your way they should be able to tell you what you can and can't do. Kind of a you living in my under my roof sort of thing.
word...

for them..

government = daddy

daddy pay allowance

daddy tell you what you can and cant do

daddy make sure baby not making babies

daddy make sure baby not doing dope

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better yet, I propose we put tracking collars around their necks with a video camera installed so we can make sure they are always doing what they should be doing to help themselves and get off of welfare. we should also make welfare fraud a 20 year Mandatory Minimum.
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i hate drug tests, but it does seem fair if you're getting a free check out of the deal to at least have to buy a masking agent or tape a condom of and a heat pack on your leg.:dontknow:

I have always heard about this, but dont you think AIC, that that is still trying to beat the system? I mean, I know just like everyone else how much stuff like that cost's, and it would totally not even come close to what these people can get in a paycheck....not trying to "ruffle feathers".....more like a debate......
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I have always heard about this, but dont you think AIC, that that is still trying to beat the system? I mean, I know just like everyone else how much stuff like that cost's, and it would totally not even come close to what these people can get in a paycheck....not trying to "ruffle feathers".....more like a debate......
I was being sarcastic. My point was that that's all you will really be doing by enforcing drug tests. Maybe you'll scrape out the lazy, bottom of the barrel, but us drug users aren't completely stupid and we know how to pass a test. And I imagine they wouldn't watch you like they do for probation/parole. They probably let you go in a room by yourself or look away, that's an easy pass. The winners will be the drug test labs that make big profits on each drug test and the druggies who do fail will become homeless and just dependent on a charity or some other govt. organization. the problem won't go away that easy. but i could be wrong.
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