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Old 09-01-2012, 04:43 PM   #1
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Why people weave prior to turns?

I have to ask about something that perplexes me almost every time that I am out riding back roads.

Someone in the group will start weaving back and forth prior to entering a set of turns after a 50 mile or so ride to get there. Often times it starts a chain reaction of "weavers" in the group!

I have to assume that they believe that they are "prepping" thier tires for the turns? If so, that is beyond retarded because the tire is WELL INTO THE OPERATING TEMPS of the rubber compounds...they are ready to do thier job with none of the weaving theatrics required.

Is there another reason that I am missing here?

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Old 09-01-2012, 04:45 PM   #2
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I do it to wake up the bike and me..
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Tires heat up due to accelerating and braking not "weaving" Although I was an idiot weaving on a straight today. There was a guy in front of me who had mechanical issues which got oil all over me, my helmet, my bike, and my front tire. So i was weaving to try and scrub some oil off before we hit the corners on the backroads.
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Tires heat up due to accelerating and braking not "weaving" Although I was an idiot weaving on a straight today. There was a guy in front of me who had mechanical issues which got oil all over me, my helmet, my bike, and my front tire. So i was weaving to try and scrub some oil off before we hit the corners on the backroads.
, were you riding behind a Harley!
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they have been going in a fairly straight line mode... they are checking the bearings in their steering stem to make sure they have not bound up. that or they are shaking their shorts down to make sure they have room for the they are about to scare out of themselves.
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I do it to wake up the guy behind me. Especially the ones in cages, on their cell phone.
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they have been going in a fairly straight line mode... they are checking the bearings in their steering stem to make sure they have not bound up. that or they are shaking their shorts down to make sure they have room for the they are about to scare out of themselves.

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, were you riding behind a Harley!
A gsxr. The seal on his oil filter blew out.
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Its called a "Cadillac turn" no matter the size of their car, they always swing out and wide when turning right turns as if they were driving a long nosed caddy.
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I will weave prior to turns to warm up my tires, I don't always do it. Only when I feel like my tires are not up to their temp.
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I used to do it a few years ago before I knew better....

Last weekend, I gradually did it around the block at low speeds when I was breaking in my new street tires... Is there a better way?
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i never see the moto gp guys do it as they grid up after their sighting lap....or do i?
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I used to do it a few years ago before I knew better....

Last weekend, I gradually did it around the block at low speeds when I was breaking in my new street tires... Is there a better way?
Read the link to Sport Rider in my first post.
New rubber (modern rubber) = no break in required.

Not to be confused with getting tires up to temp before turning.
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Old 09-01-2012, 06:42 PM   #14
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Read the link to Sport Rider in my first post.
New rubber (modern rubber) = no break in required.

Not to be confused with getting tires up to temp before turning.
Duh, guess I should have read the link...

Good read. I guess next time I have new tires, I'll just take it easy on the first few turns of my ride...
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Old 09-01-2012, 07:17 PM   #15
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I have done it before aggressive turns after a straight with lots of loose gravel.
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Old 09-01-2012, 07:28 PM   #17
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To get the sand and loose stuff off the tires. Its also not a bad idea on brand new tires. Release compound is quite slick.
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Just read the linked article and it says that brand new tires are not slippery. That's great if it's true of pirellis. But I know for damned sure that the Bridgestone Ride Smart is slippery when first put on. I had left my house and was on an overpass just a couple of miles away with brand new rubber. The bike slid when I tipped in going through the turn only moderately fast.... 80 mph tops, no way I was faster and it was the westbound bw8 to 290 inbound overpass. Not a tight turn.
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Just read the linked article and it says that brand new tires are not slippery. That's great if it's true of pirellis. But I know for damned sure that the Bridgestone Ride Smart is slippery when first put on. I had left my house and was on an overpass just a couple of miles away with brand new rubber. The bike slid when I tipped in going through the turn only moderately fast.... 80 mph tops, no way I was faster and it was the westbound bw8 to 290 inbound overpass. Not a tight turn.
Two things:
1) Even though the article says mould release is not used any more, I agree that new rubber still fells slick. THe way to address this is to take Simple Green and wash the tires with a scotchbrite kitchen pad. Not to scub (rough the rubber) but to get the residue off of the tire. Voila, no owl slick new tire.

2) Were your tires warn yet in the scenario above?
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Like MaxGs said it has nothing to do with tire temp but to get any gravel or sand off the edges of the tire. Since you are regarding backroad riding this is important especially when getting started after something like a gas station stop.
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