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Old 08-29-2012, 01:36 PM   #1
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msf advance course vs trackday

My friend want to do the advanced msf course after riding for the past 3 years.

I told him he would be better off doing a trackday. He is on a cbr f2 and has about 15k miles seat time.

I dont know what bad habits he's doing as a commuter, but wouldn't he learn more practical technique from a trackday? I haven't done the adv rider course dont know what they teach..
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Old 08-29-2012, 02:28 PM   #2
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does it have to be one or the other? I think a trackday would be more fun while learning, but they do get adictive.
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From what I understand the Advanced MSF course is pretty much the same as MSF but with two extra things taught/practiced. A track day would be WAY more beneficial in my opinion!! Not only as a TD instructor saying this, but as a rider of 20+ years, and no telling how many TDs I've done.
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Old 08-29-2012, 03:51 PM   #4
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Correct answer is both. The more training you get, the better you'll be.

The Experienced RiderCourse focuses on swerving, quick stops, cornering and some low speed manuevers. Statistically, these are the skills that have been shown to be lacking in crash reconstruction.

Trackdays obviously focus on cornering techniques.

So if it has to be one or the other, which one are you more concerned about: driving around other traffic or running off the road in a corner?

Like I said, the correct answer should be to do both.

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In his case, I think a TD would be much more beneficial. He commutes to work regularly from Dickinson to downtown via HOV and rides on the weekends.

I think a trackday will give him the freedom to ride for fun while learning
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The exp riders course at awesome was a good time, and great practice. Have home do both.
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As someone who has done both...multiple times-I would reccomend he does both. The advanced course is pretty fun especially compared to sitting in a room for 8 hours doing defensive driving....

As mentioned, a TD might make an addict out of your buddy for which you would be forever responsible....

Decisions...
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Both. Motorcycle training is never a bad idea.

Do the MSF one first. It is cheap and fun and takes much less time and can help with the second. I have taught the Experienced class for years and the track one several times.

However, the true best one for him to take would be the Total Control class. But I think Austin is the closest available since we dropped it here. I teach body position and suspension in that one.
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Track day does not get you an insurance discount but the track day definitely teaches your more!
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Track day does not get you an insurance discount but the track day definitely teaches your more!
good point, I agree.
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Both would be good. Track Day would be tons of fun! but I'm Biased.
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For daily commute, do the advance course. Better to have both types of training or skill.
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