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Old 08-27-2012, 12:01 PM   #1
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What a great race for the top step,
pleased for the little fella,

Marques take note, that's how you ride and win without the dirty !!

great to see CC get his first rostrum.

Spies Yamaha fails again slipping clutch for the opening two laps...
there's some voodoo going down on his side right now...
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what dirty ?
watch a few races
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yeah Cal did great.. lol, I guess voodoo is one way of putting it for all of the problems spies is having


only reason rossi qualified & placed where he did was because Hayden & Stoner were out due to injury..
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you gotta watch his past races to understand
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yeah Cal did great.. lol, I guess voodoo is one way of putting it for all of the problems spies is having


only reason rossi qualified & placed where he did was because Hayden & Stoner were out due to injury..
I thought he did pretty good with the smoke throwing ducati and he'd have beaten hayden
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Johnny Rea testing the Repsol today
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How about bomb run Biaggi in race 2?
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Probably one of the more exciting finishes I've seen in awhile.

It was exciting seeing Rossi up near the front for awhile. Hopefully we'll see more of that when he gets back on the Yamaha next year.
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I thought he did pretty good with the smoke throwing ducati and he'd have beaten hayden


doubfully, he was probably riding nicky's bike
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must be some old races, i have not seen him do anything dirty this year...but again i did not watch last year...this weekend had some wild crashes... lots of guy taking other guys out...some real bad luck.
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Probably one of the more exciting finishes I've seen in awhile.
It was exciting seeing Rossi up near the front for awhile. Hopefully we'll see more of that when he gets back on the Yamaha next year.
agreed,
great how DP got the drive up the hill, used the Honda power to get along side and then just held onto the brake enough to force Jlo to go wide.
Fair credit to Jlo though, he didnt take it lying down and maybe without a championship to win mighta stuck it back up the inside!!!

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doubfully, he was probably riding nicky's bike
first time it did that puff of smoke thing I just about spat my coffee!!!
imagine being right behind that..
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must be some old races, i have not seen him do anything dirty this year...but again i did not watch last year...this weekend had some wild crashes... lots of guy taking other guys out...some real bad luck.
no this season,
see pass on Luthi at Qatar I think it was...
sadly Dorna take the videos down or you could youtube it.
there was a thread on it in here too somewhere

great little rider but one dirty if you've followed his 125 years.

The man has record is what we'll say
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Taking out Espargaro (in Spain) was another. Mabye he's suffering from chronic double vission... and getting the penalty for this overtured post race was no coincidence either.

For Brno in Moto2, I was bummed that Espargaro got pinned for passing under a yellow, I thinkg that marshall just pulled out that flag when he saw him coming. Anyway he had to drop a place in closing laps and ruined what would have been a good fight and a nice come back after that near highside at same spot where De Angelis lost it in qualifying right in front of Scott Redding. And that's one bloke who could do without people crashing right in front of him like that.

Back on MotoGP, shows how differnt bikes with riders stronger in different parts of the track sets up good racing. If they were all the same spec series bike they would struggle to find those kinds of differnces that make it exciting. Of course the track plays just as important a role and Brno is a good one. Also bridgestone brough some tyres that were actually worth a dam and allowed them to have the confidence to go for it at the end rather than tip toe around in search of traction hoping the other guy goofs.

oh and here's a pic of that espargaro incidient...
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Taking out Espargaro (in Spain) was another. Mabye he's suffering from chronic double vission... and getting the penalty for this overtured post race was no coincidence either.

For Brno in Moto2, I was bummed that Espargaro got pinned for passing under a yellow, I thinkg that marshall just pulled out that flag when he saw him coming. Anyway he had to drop a place in closing laps and ruined what would have been a good fight and a nice come back after that near highside at same spot where De Angelis lost it in qualifying right in front of Scott Redding. And that's one bloke who could do without people crashing right in front of him like that.

Back on MotoGP, shows how differnt bikes with riders stronger in different parts of the track sets up good racing. If they were all the same spec series bike they would struggle to find those kinds of differnces that make it exciting. Of course the track plays just as important a role and Brno is a good one. Also bridgestone brough some tyres that were actually worth a dam and allowed them to have the confidence to go for it at the end rather than tip toe around in search of traction hoping the other guy goofs.

oh and here's a pic of that espargaro incidient...

intresting note from Rea on going from the WSBK Honda to the RC213V

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“My first impressions are that the bike isn't that difficult, it's the tyres and the way they work that I'm finding hard. I'm struggling to finish off the corner which is definitely a confidence issue as I just need to load the front and find that confidence but it's my first day and I don't want to find that limit, or risk overstepping it just yet.
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By the time he gets a feel for the tires they will bring another set of experemental tire construction for the next test. Then everyone gets to vote on what they think will slow down the faster guys more than themselves.

Makes for a moving target to try and learn and could turn into a kind of reverse development process where newer is not better in terms of outright performance. That is if majority decides (democracy rules).

It was in the plan to do a lot of development work on tires this year, so much that bridgstone hired Caprossi as saftey advisor, whatever that means, to address the warm up issues and all. It has been sold as a comprimise that for the tires to warm up quiker that they intentionaly won't last the full race distace.

Mabye so but I just tend to think there could be some alternative motive to making tires that underperform to limit the factory bikes potential and bring the field closer togther. A page taken out of Formula1 where the tires truley suck in order to gerneate more "action"...however, the end result is they need a button on the stearing wheel to pass each other and can only do so on the straights because they lack the grip to do so in the corners.

I'd be currious to see at what point the traction control kicks in on say honda or yahmaha compared to others. It is posible that Dorna could be using this as a way to self euqalize the field as the electonics would automatically limit the power to the limit of the tire. Say honda may be at 70% and a CRT would be kicking back at 90% throttle say. Dramatic example, but the power out to the ground would be the same until they got into a gear were they could put down extra power without a limiter.

Could be seeing the diffence between a spec tire, where a brand and set of componds are chosen and left alone, versus a "control tire" where the tires are continually "developed" from race to race to control the pace and spread of the field.

So all that said we'll just see what direction bridgestone is taking the development and what it all does for rider confidence.
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