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Old 01-26-2007, 01:27 PM   #1
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47 horsepower...this can't be true can it

Harleys can be made to perform, but you have to rebuild them from the ground up and by the time that you get any decent performance out of a Harley, you could have bought two or three Japanese bikes for cash. Harley's fastest motorcycle, the Sportster, isn't anywhere near deserving of its name. There is no "sport" to the Sportster, and with a 883cc engine pushing out a meager forty seven horsepower, If the Harley Sportster made anywhere near what it's displacement could be, it would be a much better motorcycle. As it is, there are some imported single cylinders and some 250cc Japanese sport bikes that put out more horsepower than Harley's 883cc.

A Harley isn't a motorcycle. Not a real motorcycle. It is nothing more than a rolling image, a self-propelled personal public relations machine that you rent for your ego, a facade that you strap your legs over when you want to show off to the rest of the world that you are something that you really aren't.

"Hey! I ride a Harley! I'm bad! Don't mess with me or you'll be sorry!"

How can you be bad when you don't have any performance? How can you be bad when everything else in the world will whip your and hand it to you on a silver platter? How bad are you when a 250cc rice rocket will eat your 883cc Sportster for lunch? I just don't understand the logic behind the image without any performance to back it up ... It's an empty threat. Since when did being bad mean that you got stomped by everything else in the world?

A scooter will get you from point A to B, and that's what I consider a Harley to be. A big, overpriced ego boosting scooter, geared for people too timid to make a statement to the world any other way than through noise and flash and by paying lots of money. Only posers and wannabes buy Harleys. Oh, and buy the required wallet on a chain, the leather jack boots, the German war helmet, and be sure that your HD comes with all the go-fast goodies like studded leather saddlebags, tassels, and a three square foot windshield. They're essential to the "bad" image.
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Old 01-26-2007, 01:28 PM   #2
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so a real motorcycle is a one that has 100+ hp and more ability than just about anyone on earth can use fully??


do you use all of the hp either of your bikes have??


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uhm...the 883 sportster is not anywhere near the fastest Harley made.
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so a real motorcycle is a one that has 100+ hp and more ability than just about anyone on earth can use fully??


do you use all of the hp either of your bikes have??


Ive used all the HP out of the 250.. all 5 horses that is:laughing6 :laughing6
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Old 01-26-2007, 01:36 PM   #5
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so a real motorcycle is a one that has 100+ hp and more ability than just about anyone on earth can use fully??


do you use all of the hp either of your bikes have??


i'm asking a question....copied this from another forum and pasted it here. the freaking post was acually four of five pages long. even got tired of reading it. i just wanted to know if the sportster only had 47 horsepower.

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"Since when did being bad mean that you got stomped by everything else in the world? "

Since when does being bad mean going fast?

Speed and horsepower are great, as Im sure most on this site will agree to, but its not everything. I own a big liter bike like you and I doubt if I will ever use it to its full capacity.

I agree that Harley culture is ridiculous, but your attacks are way off the mark.

So, Ill ask you this. Whats sadder? A guy riding a bike that he is well within his skill level in operating the bike OR a guy that is riding a bike that is out of his skill level?



Again, I dont so much like HD, but I gotta point out .
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Old 01-26-2007, 01:39 PM   #7
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and Im not calling you out either Wiz, im just playing devils advocate to make a point.
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i'm asking a question....copied this from another forum and pasted it here. the freaking post was acually four of five pages long. even got tired of reading it. i just wanted to know if the sportster only had 47 horsepower.

sorry it just irks me when i see that someone has wrote a post abotu a subject they know little about. that's why i irk myself cause i do it all the time.
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Old 01-26-2007, 01:42 PM   #9
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"Since when did being bad mean that you got stomped by everything else in the world? "

Since when does being bad mean going fast?

Speed and horsepower are great, as Im sure most on this site will agree to, but its not everything. I own a big liter bike like you and I doubt if I will ever use it to its full capacity.

I agree that Harley culture is ridiculous, but your attacks are way off the mark.

So, Ill ask you this. Whats sadder? A guy riding a bike that he is well within his skill level in operating the bike OR a guy that is riding a bike that is out of his skill level?



Again, I dont so much like HD, but I gotta point out .

as stated i'm asking a question about the 47 horsepower. i don't know one way or the other. a rider is a rider to me. i could care less what you ride. I COPIED SOME OTHER GUYS RANT....MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT FROM THE START.......
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Old 01-26-2007, 01:46 PM   #10
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sorry it just irks me when i see that someone has wrote a post abotu a subject they know little about. that's why i irk myself cause i do it all the time.
if i don't ask questions i'll just be a dumb azz and not know when someone is trying to jerk my chain. hince the reason for the post.
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Sorry, couldnt tell it was a copy paste. it just looked like you were getting up on a soapbox.
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A scooter will get you from point A to B, and that's what I consider a Harley to be. A big, overpriced ego boosting scooter, geared for people too timid to make a statement to the world any other way than through noise and flash and by paying lots of money. Only posers and wannabes buy Harleys. Oh, and buy the required wallet on a chain, the leather jack boots, the German war helmet, and be sure that your HD comes with all the go-fast goodies like studded leather saddlebags, tassels, and a three square foot windshield. They're essential to the "bad" image.
and no posers and wannabes buy sport bikes let me tell ya. :confused1
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and no posers and wannabes buy sport bikes let me tell ya. :confused1
Nope..........never!!!:laughing6 :laughing6 :laughing6
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and no posers and wannabes buy sport bikes let me tell ya. :confused1

WHAT!!!?!?!?! They sell bikes to underqualified riders?!?!?! You mean they dont require a driving test on a track first?!?!?!?! ALL YOU NEED IS THE CASH AND NO SKILL!?!?!?!

^^^if i lay the sarcasm on any thicker it'll get difficult to walk around.
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wiz, your sadly misinformed and you or whoever wrote this should ride a 250jap bike , then a 883 . silly , i want my time back for reading this
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I think torque has a lot to do with it too. The 250 makes 47HP at what RPM? 12K?

The HD will probably make 47HP at 3K or 4K.
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well im not trying to take one side or another, but

one guy who is using 100% of 47 hp, is still using less power than i guy using 75% of 100hp. and as far as tourque, i think about any sportbike can get to 47hp in less time than any cruiser. what rpm they are at is less important.

ill also say, ive read with who was it...i think greenway smokey has a sportster 1200. yeah, he couldnt really go past 120 or so, but when we were cruising around downtown, very aggresivly, it was scary. if i wasnt shifting perfect, etc he would pull on my litre bike.
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ill also throw in that being bad is about being bad. it doesnt matter what you ride. performance has nothing to do with it. if someone talks about your woman, and you bust a bottle over their head...and then stab them with it...your bad.
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ill also throw in that being bad is about being bad. it doesnt matter what you ride. performance has nothing to do with it. if someone talks about your woman, and you bust a bottle over their head...and then stab them with it...your bad.
Ka chowwww.... bikers in general are portrayed by those who dont ride as "bad".... it's a joke really
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I think torque has a lot to do with it too. The 250 makes 47HP at what RPM? 12K?

The HD will probably make 47HP at 3K or 4K.
Thats right , more or less.
Torque is where its at as far as v-twins.
I dont think a 250 ninja will eat a sportster for lunch. But then again rider skill will be the deciding factor in all that squidlyness
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