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Old 08-24-2012, 10:59 AM   #21
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I can see where it'd be hard to define for some.

Mine was easy.
First bike was a Harley FXDX Dyna Glide SS.
So not sportbike...
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:07 AM   #22
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Kawasaki Mach III 500 could blow away the CB 750....but the handling was horrid

None of these bikes qualify as "sport" by today's standards.
I had a 75 Kawasaki Mach III 500 and it was a piece of two-stroke smoking . , it was only 60 hp so how "bad" could it have been?

No brakes, flexy frame which meant it cornered worse than a full dress HD.

If you kept that engine at the 8k rpm redline, and could stand the smoke from it, it was only OK.

Anything below 6k rpm and it had the grunt of your average weed-eater - but got worse gas mileage.

And, while it would ZING to the redline, it still was not as fast as everyone thinks it was.

Read these notes from www.motorcyclespecs.com - I agree with all of them.

Kawasaki's Mach III H1 500cc triple hit the streets soon after the CB750 but it wasn't the technology which socked everyone between the eyes, it was its unique combination of raw, bad-mannered power and supposedly homicidal handling. Nearly 60bhp was claimed for the Mach III, most of it crammed into a powerband which bit like a starving Mako shark at 6000rpm and ran out just 2000 revs later.

If the performance was supposed to make your hair stand on end, the handling was said to be enough to make it fall out. Bike dubbed the 1972 H1B The Fastest Camel in the World and refused to go near another Mach III for two years. Those were heady days when it was taken for granted that Japanese motor design was far ahead of chassis, tyre and brake technology — H1 freaks probably took the headline as' a backhanded compliment to their taste in machinery.

All the same, 'handles like an early Kawasaki triple' still turns up as a roadtest cliche for bad handling long after the machines which created the phrase went out of production. So when someone rings up in the middle of winter to offer a ride on his newly restored, original-down-to-the-rear-shocks, vintage '69 HI, it's tempting to put the receiver down sharpish and pretend it was a crossed line.
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Old 08-24-2012, 02:24 PM   #28
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I'm more confused now than when I made the thread haha I guess it's the VF750.
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Old 08-24-2012, 03:57 PM   #35
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First super bike CB750 ...........first 4 cylinder, first disc brake first pull push throttle cable...etc
First sport bike VF750F .......... perfect balance, full (ish) fairings, compact V-4 engine
First racing bike GSX-R750 ..... race derived, lightest, fastest

............. we are talking mass productions here

This is pretty much my impression too. Each bike blew away the competition of the day and heralded a new era for production motorcycles.

Labels are always a subjective issue though.
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The Kawasaki GPZ900R (ZX900A) was a sport bike manufactured from 1984 to 2003. The 1984 GPZ900R (or ZX900A-1) was a revolutionary design[1][3] that became the immediate predecessor of the modern-day sport bike.[5] Developed in secret over six years, it was the world's first 16-valve liquid-cooled inline four-cylinder motorcycle engine, years ahead of rival manufacturers' efforts.[3][7] The 908 cc four-cylinder engine delivered 115 bhp (86 kW), allowing the bike to reach speeds of 151 mph (243 km/h), making it the first stock road bike to exceed 150 mph (240 km/h).

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83-84 was when full fairings first appeared on street bikes

I would say as early as 80-81 bikes like the Seca and the CBRF were the precursor to the modern "sportbike"
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This is easy when you are old.

The Interceptor 500 and 750 ushered in the modern era
followed by the 900Ninja

The first fully faired bike that resembles what you see today was THE FIRST 600 Ninja

GSXR750 in 85
Then 600 Hurricane (predecessor to the CBR family)

THen FZR family in the Yamaha line.
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The first sportbike.
This is easy when you are old.

The Interceptor 500 and 750 ushered in the modern era
followed by the 900Ninja

The first fully faired bike that resembles what you see today was THE FIRST 600 Ninja

GSXR750 in 85
Then 600 Hurricane (predecessor to the CBR family)

THen FZR family in the Yamaha line.
***Forgot: leading up to the intro to the Interceptor was the GPZ family from Kawasaki. Those were probably the "naked sportbikes of thier day: Old school dual shocks but sportbikes anyway
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***Forgot: leading up to the intro to the Interceptor was the GPZ family from Kawasaki. Those were probably the "naked sportbikes of thier day: Old school dual shocks but sportbikes anyway

When I was in 10th grade, this Honda V65 commercial used to air on TV:
Cool but that should tell you where bikes evolved styling wise from '82 to '84-'85

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