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Old 08-19-2012, 05:03 PM   #1
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aftermarket cans--worth it?

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I had a fellow Guzzi rider offer to sell me some aftermarket cans for a good price. Right now I decided to pass due a variety of reasons, but cans are on my radar in the future.

The question: why buy them? Most are expensive. Then there is installation and what to do with the stock ones? Remapping is an issue with some bikes (not the ones I am considering).

So why buy them: sweet burbling sounds come to mind of course , and looks, and a bit less weight perhaps, and the "custom" aspects. For some bikes there may be performance uplift, but I doubt it is much.

So, are they worth it? $1100 bucks for Arrows? Thoughts appreciated!

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When I rebuilt my ninja 650, I ordered a new exhaust for a couple of reasons.

One to pep it up a little and make it louder, the 650 came from the factory with a 14lb exhaust. My aftermarket arrow exhaust weighed in at 5lbs!

It was well worth the upgrade, installation was a piece of cake.

How much are the cans your looking at, I got a brand new Arrow exhaust for $230 shipped

When buying an exhaust I would do a lot of research, for my bike some of the more popular exhausts were really loud and obnoxious, my arrow is just perfect.
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Old 08-19-2012, 05:06 PM   #3
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Old 08-19-2012, 05:10 PM   #4
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buy a welder and the world is yours. you can make ANYTHING.
I hope your kidding,

You will loose high and low end performance by creating your own exhaust, buy factory
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Paid $1200 for my Leo Vince half system on my Italian steed, the arrows were ~$1600

Well worth it IMO, the sound alone is priceless
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Old 08-19-2012, 05:15 PM   #6
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Paid $1200 for my Leo Vince half system on my Italian steed, the arrows were ~$1600

Well worth it IMO, the sound alone is priceless
Arrow FTW!
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I hope your kidding,

You will loose high and low end performance by creating your own exhaust, buy factory
kidding yes, but if you know what you're doing you can make yourself an exhaust that will perform. but to do that would take years of experience and is not a serious solution for the OP. unless he's looking to get into the custom exhaust fab business
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upgrades are never worth buying, keep it stock and original. Then again, my friends tell me that I squeak when I walk. LOL
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The only question is whether or not it's worth it to YOU. I myself only do full exhaust. That's when the benefits are more apparent
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performance wise slip-ons offer very little

but sound wise, they can be totally bike changing.
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yep, only you can decide if it is worth it.... you will be paying for sound, if the change in sound is worth it to you, go for it. for me, it would not be worth it.
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but sound wise, they can be totally bike changing.
Absolutely true for 99% of the bikes out.
Average gain on most bikes is 3-5 hp, although you'll typically save a good bit of weight.
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It's worth it to have a bike that doesn't sound like Gertrude's minivan. I mean, you could argue bikes aren't "worth it".
You could buy a small car, that gets better mileage for what a new bike costs. We ride because we enjoy it and part of that is because bikes are the honey badgers of the street.
Who wants one that has no bite?
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I'm with Ed here. Plus I doubt your dyno would feel the added 3hp...

Get some cans already!
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Absolutely true for 99% of the bikes out.
Average gain on most bikes is 3-5 hp, although you'll typically save a good bit of weight.
Hey that's a lot for me

Definitely not worth it on my bike. I would end up paying a good chunk of what my bike is worth.

Even if my pipes are a little oxydized and the can is dented.
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Different sound is probably the #1 reason.

Different looks is likely #2.

Weight savings depends on the bike. Some OEM systems are already very lightweight; some are even titanium. The '08 ZX-10R muffler was fairly heavy; the stainless steel Yoshimura I put on saved about 5 lbs or so. The Concours 14 OEM potato gun was ridiculously heavy. Area P carbon fiber slip ons saved 14 lbs. Full system would have saved 21 lbs.

I don't much care about peformance gains. You need dyno sessions and fuel mapping tuning to realize any HP gain, if there is any to be had.
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Old 08-20-2012, 08:52 AM   #18
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Did you see the thread about car makers putting speakers on thw firewall that mimick engine noises? Pretty much explains it to me. It enhances the riding experience. It may not be any faster, but "feels" faster. Looks is also a plus, as is making your bike stand out just a little compared to another one that pulls up... Though youre mg v7r probably won't face that issue.
Weight is like hp, I can't feel the subtle changes. Then again, my 650r was short & underbike.
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Slip-On + Mid-Pipe on 2011 zx-10r...the stock mid-pipe has all the cat shtuff on it & weighs a ton so weight savings was substantial, sound is much better & looks are a personal preference thing. That said, my personal preference is that the stock cans on the V7 look pretty badass...as does the rest of that bike.
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