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Old 08-06-2012, 11:02 PM   #21
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Yeah, there's no potential for a life sentence on a manslaughter charge.
Will not be charged with that.
Perhaps criminal negligence.
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Will not be charged with that.
Perhaps criminal negligence.
You're right - could go that way.

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Sec.*19.04.**MANSLAUGHTER. (a) A person commits an offense if he recklessly causes the death of an individual.
(b)**An offense under this section is a felony of the second degree.


Sec.*19.05.**CRIMINALLY NEGLIGENT HOMICIDE. (a) A person commits an offense if he causes the death of an individual by criminal negligence.
(b)**An offense under this section is a state jail felony.
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Involuntary manslaughter is the unlawful killing of a human being without malice aforethought, either express or implied. It is distinguished from voluntary manslaughter by the absence of intention. It is normally divided into two categories; constructive manslaughter and criminally negligent manslaughter, both of which involve criminal liability.
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Criminally negligent manslaughter occurs where there is an omission to act when there is a duty to do so, or a failure to perform a duty owed, which leads to a death. The existence of the duty is essential because the law does not impose criminal liability for a failure to act unless a specific duty is owed to the victim. It is most common in the case of professionals who are grossly negligent in the course of their employment. An example is where a doctor fails to notice a patient's oxygen supply has disconnected and the patient dies (R v Adomako).
The dad didn't do something that directly killed his child but rather by omission - negligence, his actions resulted in a death.

I was mainly pointing out that murder was definitely out of the question.
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Just this past sunday I saw a guy on an R6 (I think) riding on Saums at Fry Rd with what looked like a 4 or 5 year old hanging on to him from behind. Neither had gear on and the dad had shades on. This was around noon or 1pm and about 5 minutes after I saw them pass it began to storm bad. Had to shake my head, but hey, it's their choice.
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Old 08-07-2012, 12:12 AM   #26
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Do you know that feeling where you don't want somethingto happen so bad and it seems to happen? You concentrate on the bad. Almost like target fixation.

Research shows that ball bearings falling into four slots unobserved will spread themselves evenly. But when observed, the will spread unevenly and usually more in the slot the observer is concentrating on.

Also photons heading towards two openings just large enough for a photon to pass through will spread themselves evenly as several waves as the light is bent around the corners, but when observed, the photons do not spread like waves but will either pass through one slot or the other.

If you believe 10 dimensional hyperspace this all really makes sense. I find it intriguing. Our thoughts influence our very universe as if we are traveling segment by segment in our only 3 dimensional conciousness. And if we live not in a finite universe, then anything physically possible either has happened is happening or will happen.

It makes one second guess just exactly what intuition, premonition, predictive dreaming, and deja vu are.

I personally believe confidence is everything.
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Me and the wife were riding up 146 from Galveston one day, just as we pass the Kemah bridge we see three people on what look like a Vrod. It was a man his wife and their kid.

the kid couldn't have been more than 4-5 years old, riding in the front of dad between the tank and bark, and they had him strapped in with a buddy belt.

The kid had on leathers and a full face helmet.

When we got to the next light my wife was like WTF?

I take my older boys for a ride around the neighborhood, but they are 6 and 8, they both wear a helmet and we rarely get of 20 miles an hour.
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Research shows that ball bearings falling into four slots unobserved will spread themselves evenly. But when observed, the will spread unevenly and usually more in the slot the observer is concentrating on.
Research also shows that lane splitters get tickets
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Old 08-07-2012, 07:56 AM   #30
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Research also shows that lane splitters get tickets
I just won one by jury trial for unsafe lane change. No attorney. 3 to go.
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I just won one by jury trial for unsafe lane change. No attorney. 3 to go.
So how much court time did lane splitting cost you?
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I just won one by jury trial for unsafe lane change. No attorney. 3 to go.
congrats

did you actually goto court, or did the cop no-show?

like i said, all the time saved by LS is taken up in court, FTW?
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So how much court time did lane splitting cost you?
More like how many tax dollars were wasted by an ignorant LEO?
I rather enjoyed myself. I think all in all it was about 2 and a half hours.
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When I grew up in the old country, I used to sit on the tank of my dad's 125cc (which seems like a huge grown-up bike back then) while my sister sat behind my dad. Motorbikes and scooters are basic transportation in many parts of the world, and folks make do with what they have.

When I still had my Suzuki 1400cc cruiser, I did let my 2yr old sit between me and the tank - with a helmet on of course. I briefly putt-putt up and down our own cul-de-sac at walking speed in first gear.

What happened is unfortunate no doubt. Berating the father at this point ignores the fact that we all take risks from time to time. This rider simply took one that exceeded his own ability to manage.

Have you sped with passenger in your own vehicle? Have you done so while being tired and drowsy? While distracted?

Wisdom that comes with old age means one learns from other's mistakes... as well as his own. You can point your finger in any direction. I choose to point it at myself. I hope you choose wisely.
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More like how many tax dollars were wasted by an ignorant LEO?
I rather enjoyed myself. I think all in all it was about 2 and a half hours.
Yea, that's a much better use of time instead of out riding
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Yea, that's a much better use of time instead of out riding
It's okay. I only do it for safety anyway. Plus my jaw is broken in two places right now so I couldn't ride either way.
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As a father of two this is terrifying to hear. My kids always ask for a ride and I deny them with a quickness. Theres no reason for this !
My daughter keeps asking me to take her did a ride, I want to but I'm really scared(though she is 8 and I would put a helmet on her) that she might fall. I'm considering it more now that I have the monster instead of an SS. I want to get that set up that Racer X had posted when he gave his daughter a ride...


RIP to the poor baby..
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I love my daughter too much to let her have 15 minutes of fun around the block on the bike.
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rip little one........
Well said , poor little guy , really irresponsible for the dad to do that , serious price to pay \ big mistake dad .
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