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Old 08-04-2012, 10:49 AM   #1
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ok so my bike came with sportmax qualifier tires on it and even tho im using all the rear tire i dont feel like im leaning that far? Is there a tire that is good for street use but gives a better leaning ability than this tire?
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Old 08-04-2012, 10:56 AM   #2
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ok so my bike came with sportmax qualifier tires on it and even tho im using all the rear tire i dont feel like im leaning that far? Is there a tire that is good for street use but gives a better leaning ability than this tire?
Agree pilot 3 is the best tire for the R6
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Old 08-04-2012, 11:46 AM   #4
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If you're running the tire to the edge, your body position isn't correct creating more lean angle than needed. You want to have a safety margin on the streets. That will show by having an 1/8th to a 1/4" of unused tread on the rear.
Be safe and have fun.
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Old 08-04-2012, 12:27 PM   #5
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ok im hitting the edge while riding racer road and when im out playing example: i was out late the other night like 2:30am and was coming 610 south to i10 west i took the corner and got all the way to the edge of the tire but was only able to hit speeds of like 105. the bike seemed like it could lean further than the tire could handle so im looking for a tire that would allow for this
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Old 08-04-2012, 12:43 PM   #6
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A slick is what you'd look for to have less sidewall, but that's not what YOU need, and that's not what you need to be concerned with here.

Little lesson.. The more you lean the bike, the less traction you'll have (smaller and smaller patch of tire contacting the ground), and the suspension has to work harder and harder.

What was mentioned above about body position, if you lean off the bike more, lowering your center of gravity, the you won't have to lean the bike as much.

Please take this to heart, and think about it. If you're going to be one of those street riders that's about dragging knee and HAVE to have zero chicken strips, we're going to be reading a thread about you going down.

Lean the bike less, use your body, and leave a bigger contact patch for your tires, then you can go faster in the curves.




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Old 08-04-2012, 12:45 PM   #7
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If you want a good example, watch MotoGP!! Watch them come out of a corner and getting the bike upright while they're actually still leaning into the corner!
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The Dunlop Q2, Bridgestone BT016, BT003RS and their new S20 have been excellent tires on the road getting good mileage and supplying excellent grip on my spirited weekend rides. From your sig it looks like you're just getting into riding sportbikes. My honest suggestion is to find (borrow or buy) leathers, boots and gloves and attend a trackday. There and only there will you be able to find your limits.

Riding your tires to the edge on the streets is asking for trouble. As I said, proper body positioning will allow taking that same turn at a much higher rate of speed with less lean angle. I'm not condoning riding those speeds on public roads, I'm using your post as an example.
Be safe and not a statistic.
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Don't forget, PIRELLI makes some really great tires, for street, street & track, and track only!!! The others are good too, you just have to try a few and stick with ones YOU like and trust. I've been on Pirelli for years now..
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The Pirelli Angel St is a great street tire. It offers plenty of grip for regular street rides and lasts longer than the other sports tires such as the Q2, S20, or 2CT. I have some customers getting 6k miles out of a rear Angel ST on 600's ridden on the street only. I stock these at Wild West Honda, let me know if you need a Motohouston deal.
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ok so my bike came with sportmax qualifier tires on it and even tho im using all the rear tire i dont feel like im leaning that far? Is there a tire that is good for street use but gives a better leaning ability than this tire?
It's not the tire. An average trackday rider could easily drag knee with those tires.

My CBR has a BT-023 rear which is a sport/touring tire. It's been on the track
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The Dunlop Q2, Bridgestone BT016, BT003RS and their new S20 have been excellent tires on the road getting good mileage and supplying excellent grip on my spirited weekend rides. From your sig it looks like you're just getting into riding sportbikes. My honest suggestion is to find (borrow or buy) leathers, boots and gloves and attend a trackday. There and only there will you be able to find your limits.

Riding your tires to the edge on the streets is asking for trouble. As I said, proper body positioning will allow taking that same turn at a much higher rate of speed with less lean angle. I'm not condoning riding those speeds on public roads, I'm using your post as an example.
Be safe and not a statistic.
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One of our service tech's. is running the new Dunlop Roadsmart II in his KTM Duke and loves them.
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It's not the tire. An average trackday rider could easily drag knee with those tires.

My CBR has a BT-023 rear which is a sport/touring tire. It's been on the track
Ok I run sticky sticky rubber on the street simply because its a confidence thing but I know I can't outride the BT-023 on the street and probably couldn't on the track. If you are running your tires to the max on the street you need to slow down for starters. If you refuse to slow down you need to get some instruction on how to use Body position to make your ride safer... noone wants to see a RIP thread because you are too proud to admit that safety comes first.
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And think about getting to a track ... SOON!!! If you'd like more info, PM me and I'll see what we can do!
Agreed. Do a track day school, such as RideSmart, and you will suddenly understand why folks are you a bit. How wide your chicken strips are is the wrong thing to be worried about. In fact, a better skilled rider could circle the track at exactly your same speed, and have MORE chicken strip showing, because they would actually be leaning the bike less, due to body position.

Invest in the ride school, and it WILL save you some injury, if not your life.
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I run those on my 12R and they are great tires. Plenty of grip for all but the most dedicated back road burners.
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