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Old 07-30-2012, 09:52 PM   #21
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amen! and I've watched my old man lace up about 2 dozen spoke wheels when I was a kid...can't be too much different than a bicycle I would assume. Unless you start throwing offsets into the equation....so, with each spoke added after the intial 2 spokes are in place, is it a constant "addition" to the previous spoke measurement? or am I way off here?
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Old 07-30-2012, 09:54 PM   #22
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That's an important spec to know.
In the 79 mm example, where is the hub centerline?
How much clearance is there on the rotor side of the bike/swingarm?


I would have to look up the centerline specs ,

What would clearence of swingarm matter ?

I understand that if the hub is not located correctly that hoop edge would be closer/further from swingarm ,


actual app is an XR650L
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Old 07-30-2012, 09:59 PM   #23
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Swingarm clearnce can be an issue with a much wider wheel, i.e. a 127mm vs a 79mm wheel.
Optimally when doing custom wheels it would be good to have the wheel and the bike but if that's not possible than knowing the stock hub offset is critical.
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The rear will be a 4.25 wide excel , 127mm exact width ,

I will try and get some pics tomorrow of actual wheels ,



try to imagine side by side

a 4 in wide rim and a 2 inch wide rim

both for same bike , hub etc ,

looking down on them the rotor would be way out to the right on the smaller rim , and hidden or even on the wider ,
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O.k., that's the missing link.
In your case the rotor is outside of the rim, so the 19mm offset is from the INSIDE of the rotor to the rim edge.
In that case than you're correct, the 71mm rim would be 23mm, and the 127mm rim would be -5mm.
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O.k., that's the missing link.
In your case the rotor is outside of the rim, so the 19mm offset is from the INSIDE of the rotor to the rim edge.
In that case than you're correct, the 71mm rim would be 23mm, and the 127mm rim would be -5mm.

Yes , thats what I thought I said from the beginning , rotor mounting surface to edge of hoop.

Man ,

you had me thinking am I that stupid ,


so , the way I see it ,

any hoop if diff from the oe width would be a different distance offset .

Thinner = more Wider = less .
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Yes , thats what I thought I said from the beginning , rotor mounting surface to edge of hoop.

so , the way I see it ,

any hoop if diff from the oe width would be a different distance offset .

Thinner = more Wider = less .

Yes, it just wasn't clear whether the wheel edge was outside the rotor or not.

So, in your case you're correct: Thinner = more Wider = less
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I will get some pics of a couple of rears I had built ,

Diff hubs , but same width ,

1 is correct offset but I see spoke issues , the other offfset is wrong, but no spoke issues .

we will go from there and see If you can get this fixed for me ,

I wont mention who built these for me as I'm waiting to hear back from them ,

But this is what they do , Build wheels , Thats it .

I would have never expected these issues out of them .
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I'd like to see them in person, the lacing looks jacked up and the offset is definitely wrong.
I'll be at the shop today till 6.
I'm off tomorrow but will be there Thursday-Friday 9:30 - 6 and Saturday 9-6 if you want to bring them by for us to look at.
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