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Old 07-18-2012, 02:03 PM   #41
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So far I've found that problems with a given city/state's driving style comes from the person observing and not being familiar with local styles. I learned to drive in Chicago, then moved to Michigan for quite a while. When I first moved to Houston I had no clue how to deal with drivers here until I learned that they aren't all that unpredictable. I'm sure its the same way with NOLA (what's with slamming on your brakes in any lane?). Anyway, wherever you are slow down learn how the locals drive and change your style.

That bit of nicety being over with, Houston is definitively different than the rest of Texas. I frequently drive all over this great state (iz my Yankee 'z now bichez!!) and just modify my driving style to wherever I am. My favorite is out on a country road where people will drive on the shoulder to let you by. Wow, that's what courtesy should be. I've slowly grown to love this state and will be a bit sad to leave (if/when I do).
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Old 07-18-2012, 02:17 PM   #42
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Granted this thread is based on opinion, Texas is a far cry from the worst drivers. Plus, the closer you get to downtown Houston, the worse it gets. Farther out away from Houston you start to see some sort of common road courtesy.
Nah bro, it's the suburbians who can't drive. They come to work in the city and then go back to suburbia.

I commute the opposite direction and it's a Cakewalk.
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The problem with drivers in TX, all the yankees that moved to TX/Houston...

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-on two lane hiways like 290 west heading out to austin you will get two drivers usually pickup trucks in both lanes next to eachother going 10-15 under the speed limit holding up traffic - its like those farmers are trying to herd cars
Example: a Tx farmer would pull to the right to the let traffic behind them pass.
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Lived in OKC from 2005-2008 (as well as several years as a kid, but that's not pertinent to a discussion of driving). Only place I've lived where ""common sense"" dictated driving in the left lane because there was fewer cars, and is therefore safer. Obviously drivers using this technique aren't exactly busting the speed limit either. Predictable sure, but infuriating.

I still get strange looks from friends when I'm down here passing on the right. It's a remnant of how I had to drive there to get anywhere in a reasonable amount of time.

They've since had to pass a law making it a ticketable offense. However, I still hate driving there, AND the roads are worse than Houston in town which is pathetic considering Houston has more people than that whole state.
Life is slower in cowboy country. So is the pace of driving. I can't drive NYC-style there, nor OKC-style in NYC. But at least I know what to expect at both places. Here in Houston, no fricking idea what the next stunt the other driver is gonna pull.
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i have driven in most of this country and i find that traffic in any big city sucks, courtesy does not exist in large cities, at least not on the road, not from store clerks, or school kids...
now if i get out of houston and north of huntsville and south of ennis, the folks are great.... get on the farm roads and county roads and folks wave, a slow truck will pull over to the right side and let you go by and wave as you go...having to dodge the occasional cow or deer or pig or coyote is well worth it.
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Old 07-18-2012, 03:35 PM   #46
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I understand your frustration, but if you take the ILLEGAL ALIAS OUT OF THE PICTURE I'm sure those numbers would be quite different.

But that's not going to happen.

Because the illegals always get a pass.
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Life is slower in cowboy country. So is the pace of driving. I can't drive NYC-style there, nor OKC-style in NYC. But at least I know what to expect at both places. Here in Houston, no fricking idea what the next stunt the other driver is gonna pull.
Houston is fully predictable:

If you signal a lane change, a car will speed up to block it

If you leave half a car length in between you and the car in front of you, someone will fill it.

Big trucks ( than whatever you're driving) make spaces wherever they want

Someone is always going to decide st the last second that THIS is there exit and dive across 3 lanes almost clipping the barrels.







now contrast that to okies who randomly COME TO A COMPLETE STOP on a onramp while you're accelerating to merge with traffic, and once again...I'll take Houston.
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Old 07-18-2012, 11:50 PM   #48
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Just to name a few more... you forgot:

1. Car pulling out of a gas station at the busiest service road intersection, cuts across 5 lanes of traffic, hold up 150 cars in rush hour... just so it can take the U-turn under the fwy.

2. Idiots who not only do not yield to the ambulance, but would pull up behind the ambulance and speed along with it.

3. Driver in the inner-most of multiple left-turn only lanes would cut all the way across to the outer-most, forcing cars in adjacent lanes to slam on their brakes. I saw an collision happen right in front of me because of this.

4. Drivers coming up to a 4-way stop sign intersection, either cheat and don't wait their turn, or sit there forever and won't go. No way to predict based on vehicle or driver. Problem worsens geometrically if it's multiple lanes each way.

I'll take any place but Houston.

Oh wait... I ain't got a choice. I live here.
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Boston drivers are miserable. The instant the light turns green they honk reguardless if you have started moving already or not. It might have gotten better after they finished the "big dig" but it was miserable before.

I assume this is also just the US. Hong Kong, Vietnam, Italy, Greece are all much more miserable than here. Scotland wasn't too bad after I got use to shifting with my left hand.
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:31 AM   #51
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I assume this is also just the US. Hong Kong, Vietnam, Italy, Greece are all much more miserable than here. Scotland wasn't too bad after I got use to shifting with my left hand.
Definitely just the US in this thread.

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Old 07-19-2012, 08:41 AM   #52
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ive been to a lot of states, Texasis definitively in the top 5 of worst drivers no doubt. Look at our insurance rates.
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Houston is fully predictable:

If you signal a lane change, a car will speed up to block it

If you leave half a car length in between you and the car in front of you, someone will fill it.

Big trucks ( than whatever you're driving) make spaces wherever they want

Someone is always going to decide st the last second that THIS is there exit and dive across 3 lanes almost clipping the barrels.







now contrast that to okies who randomly COME TO A COMPLETE STOP on a onramp while you're accelerating to merge with traffic, and once again...I'll take Houston.
I guess you can call that behavior predictable, but it sucks. I'd love to see people get pulled over for changing lanes and turning without using their signal. I don't think drivers here can merge either. I get stuck behind people all of the time that either go slow or stop and then try to get into high speed traffic. For a while after I moved here I was getting serious road rage behind the wheel because of the idiotic driving. I hated driving my car because I could deal with it much better and be more calm on the bike. I've adjusted to it and don't get so angry, but it still leaves me in disbelief at how people drive around here.

I said in another thread that Texans can't drive but after I posted it I got to thinking that it most likely has a lot more to do with the people from down south of Texas lol. People from some other countries drive pretty crazy.
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I usually ride with one wheel on the road and the other up nice and high so I figure the chances that I'll have trouble with the other people participating in massive transit on the public infrastructure are only half of everyone else's on a bike.
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Example: a Tx farmer would pull to the right to the let traffic behind them pass.
Having just moved to Texas I ****ing hate this! If these asshats can't drive at a reasonable speed get off the road. It's often just a truck or car driving on the side of the road. If they wanted a lane there they would have made one. The roads have passing lanes for a reason and I'd rather use those than have your dumbass drive on the side road in hopes you don't swerve back into the proper lane and smash into me on my bike. And it's not just farmers, all kinds of idiots do this
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Having just moved to Texas I ****ing hate this! If these asshats can't drive at a reasonable speed get off the road. It's often just a truck or car driving on the side of the road. If they wanted a lane there they would have made one. The roads have passing lanes for a reason and I'd rather use those than have your dumbass drive on the side road in hopes you don't swerve back into the proper lane and smash into me on my bike. And it's not just farmers, all kinds of idiots do this
The 'roads' where they go to the side so you can pass...don't have passing lanes. They're simple two lanes, country roads. Try popping your head out of your and adjust to the locale instead of expecting all of them to adapt to you. Most likely what you're encountering, are more people like yourself...
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The 'roads' where they go to the side so you can pass...don't have passing lanes. They're simple two lanes, country roads. Try popping your head out of your and adjust to the locale instead of expecting all of them to adapt to you. Most likely what you're encountering, are more people like yourself...

Passing zones is what I meant not passing lanes. They are all over the roads I was talking about.
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