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Old 07-14-2012, 11:14 PM   #1
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Recommend a bike

As alot of you have seen in a recent post my wife and I are looking into getting dirt bikes to start riding together again. At first i knew exactly what i wanted then i read about them a little and read a few of MH posts on another thread and I am now unsure as to what i want. It has been a pretty long time since i was on a dirt bike (other than the 50) so im pretty far out of the loop. The most recent bikes i was riding was an RM250, an XR100, and a few times on a KX500 (bike scared the out of me). I have been a pretty die hard 2 stroke fan for a really long time just because of the power difference in a 2t and a 4t (back in the late 90's). From all the reading i have done it seems as tho 4t have come a long way and 2t has been weeded out almost completely (new bikes). My question to all of you current and in the know dirt bikers out there, What would you recommend to me and why. The bike will be used for basically everything, from trails to track. I was really into trails back on the old 4t but the second i got on the 2t my buddy and I were out at highlands and skeeter lol. I like to do research before i buy anything just to be sure I am happy with my purchase. I am open to any recommendations but i can tell you i dont want to own another Suzuki product. (no offense to any Suzuki fans). I am interested in mostly anything 2000 and newer.

I have been asked before so i will say now I am 5'9 and roughly 170 pounds.


As for experience i got my first dirt bike when i was pretty young (before teenager) and basically grew up riding them till i turned 16 and got my first car. Got a sport bike in 06 and still have it.
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I have been concidering a 4t alot lately but i feel like i would be unhappy with it and just want another 2t.
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Found a few nice 2t on craigslist, would like to get some recommendations before commiting to a bike
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I raced motox for a long time. I love my 2 strokes... Now in my last few years of racing i was on a 4stroke CRF450 and SOAB that thing was killer. Rode trials great and the track like a monster. Id opt for a 4 stroke if you are hitting trails and some track. The new 4strokes are killer. Im partial to the honda dirt bikes....
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A couple years ago we were into dirt riding and a buddy got a crf250. I was like you and used to the old school 4 strokes, but when i rode it i couldn't believe how much torque that little engine could put down, and how it was available over most of the rpm range. If i were buying another dirt bike today, it would definitely be a 4. The only thing i didn't like about it was that it was more difficult for me to start vs my cr125. At about 130 lbs, i almost didn't have enough to crank it.
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Old 07-15-2012, 07:58 AM   #6
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2t will be cheaper to buy, cheaper to maintain and easier to maintain if you DIY. Course you have to premix 2t oil so an added expense there.

Since you haven't rode in a long time chances are the bike you buy now might not be long term for you. You'll start riding again and only then know your true mix of riding type and bike preference. Buy your first bike cheap and limit the money you throw at it expecting to resell it soon.

Also you don't state the riding skills of your wife but a 125cc motocross bike, either 2t or 4t will be very high strung and not the best bike for a novice on trails unless you do plenty of mods.

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Thanks for all of the opinions! If I were to go 2t I am sticking with a 250 but if I go with a 4t what would be better for me 250 or 450.

Every article I read about 250 4t was basically just saying they r upgrading to 450
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My vote goes 2t all the way. Modern 2 strokes (especially those with powervalves) can be tuned so well, that you can have super smooth power delivery. They're reliable, don't foul plugs like the 2Ts of old. Like SilverBullet said above, they will be cheaper to maintain. Everything you need for a new topend ca be had for under $200. They're lighter and start easier. 2008 & up KTM 250s & 300s even have electric start. Unless you're doing lots of MX and lots of open riding (desert stuff) I think you'd really enjoy the flickability of a 2t in the woods.
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Really want to get back into jumping, but unsure if my knees/ankle can handle it the way we used to do it lol.
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I know this may seem like an unreliable source but i have been watching youtube vids of all around riding and how the bike is performing/sound. I dont know if i can bring myself to buy a 4 stroke. I have been thinking really hard about financing a 2011 yz 250... i really dont want to get into another set of payments tho. Other than that 2t are pretty scarce. LMK if anyone sees anything that seems like a good deal.
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BTW, I would recommend a KTM200 (XC or XCW) for your wife as opposed to a 125. You can tune (via the powervalve) so it's very tame and you can lug the 200 as much as you can a 250/300. That way when you're hitting up woods or something where you're not revving the out of it, she can just lug right along. It's a GREAT bike. It's built on the 125 frame and shares the same lower part of the motor as a 125/144 so it's very light as well. Just the cylinder head/piston is different.
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Here's a nice looking CR250: http://www.texasoffroad.net/forum/ub...to_2500#UNREAD

But for $1k more, you could get a 6 year newer KTM250: http://www.texasoffroad.net/forum/ub...M_250XC#UNREAD
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Hmm cant see pics for that cr 250.

The CR is more around my price range for now. We do have a car for sale that will open it up a bit more but till that sells i need to think cheaper or my wife will kill me lol.
Thats why i was considering the 2011 yz 250 for financing options but again i rly dont want to have to make payments on something.
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I actually cant see any pictures on that forum...
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I grew up riding 2t and when I got back into riding I was in the same situation as you. The only 4t experience I had was on older 4t underpowered trail bikes. I ended up getting a kx125 just to kinda get back in my groove. Rode it for 2 months then decided I needed more bike. After reading of all of the advances in the new 4ts I decided to take the leap and haven't looked back. The power delivery is soon smooth and whenever you need it it's there, never have to worry about stayin in the pipe or feathering the clutch. The only downside is maintence cost. I just spent around $1300 when a valve guide seized up and destroyed the head and pistons, (went ahead and had a race head built and stg2 cams). a 2t for a complete top and bottom end would've been less than that. Despite how much I just spent on it, I would still take it over a 2 stroke, after all the motor work I just did its a beast, cant keep the front wheel down until 4th. Rode a friends cr250 last weekend and it felt week compared to mine, we even drag raced because he's a 4t hater, he didn't stand a chance. Each bike has its pros and cons for sure and it really depends on personal preference and how serious about riding your going to be. I'm going to be riding out in the Katy spot next Sunday and your welcome to come ride my bike to help you decide.
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And as far as getting your wife a 2t 125, has she ridden before? If not she would probably have more fun on some thing like a crf150 or a 4t trail bike . I tried to get my girl on one and she hated so ended up getting a klx110 and she loves it.
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Thats really cool of u man, Im not sure if i will be able to make it out that way or not next weekend due to us moving but i really do appreciate the offer. Is the power from the 4t similar at all to old 2t? I just remember no matter how far ahead of my friend i was on the 4t he would catch me and blow me away every berm on his 2t. My old 4t had such little torque and power i was constantly off lol.
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I just noticed ur in league city, I'm like 5 min away so maybe if it dries up you can come check it out in the field by my house during the week. New 4t vs old 2t is night and day difference. The way I always compare them for people is like a fast v8 muscle car vs a fast turbo civic. The 4t being the v8 with all the low end torque and not revving high but yanking you back. The 2t being the turbo car, once it's under boost the power hits hard (powerband) and making most power in the higher rpms. But the 2t will cost you less in the long run if that's and issue.
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I just noticed ur in league city, I'm like 5 min away so maybe if it dries up you can come check it out in the field by my house during the week. New 4t vs old 2t is night and day difference. The way I always compare them for people is like a fast v8 muscle car vs a fast turbo civic. The 4t being the v8 with all the low end torque and not revving high but yanking you back. The 2t being the turbo car, once it's under boost the power hits hard (powerband) and making most power in the higher rpms. But the 2t will cost you less in the long run if that's and issue.
That is actually the best way ive heard it put so far lol. as you see in my avatar my first car was an old "muscle car" and back when i was 16 driving that around it was when there was the big tension type deal between the domestic guys and import guys haha. Yeah man that would be really cool, i am up in college station area for the weekend getting more stuff but will be back in league city this coming up week. If a 4t is basically power all the time im pretty interested to see how they ride now. I may have to get a cheap2t for now and maybe get a 4t a little later down the road. In your opinion what would be the better all around bike? When i used to ride before we would go from trails to the track to the small "freestyle dirt jumps" my friend had built. so im looking for something that can adapt to all of that. I know its hard to find something for all around but at this time im not going to be die hard track rider or die hard trail or dirt jump rider just looking for something i wont be disappointed in. Im extremely indecisive lol. I really appreciate all the info ur tossing out!
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I think either of them would be good for what you looking to do, it's mainly just personal preference. I do about 50% trails and 50% motocross and I just felt faster and more comfortable on my 4t. You can always sell one to get another, like u said, like I did.
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