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Old 07-10-2012, 08:35 PM   #101
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You got put in the know? Funny thing is i have only been on a couple of group noob rides one witb thayleal and the other by pinball. So i dontreally know anyone here. Its okay though this is the second time ive been accused of being someone i am not. Let me guess chaps guy tmax?
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I think not, so who is eligible to ride at a moderate pace specifically?
You're defining moderate as avoiding the extreme, catering to the average.
How is anyone supposed to know what that means, it's so subjective.
A noobs average speed might be the recommended SL on turns, where mine might be DOUBLE or TRIPLE that.
I'm a noob then....Can't keep up with that...
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Can we just close this thread... Senator is about to call in the dogs!!lol
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I think not, so who is eligible to ride at a moderate pace specifically?
You're defining moderate as avoiding the extreme, catering to the average.
How is anyone supposed to know what that means, it's so subjective.
A noobs average speed might be the recommended SL on turns, where mine might be DOUBLE or TRIPLE that.
At 6 months I was doing double
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Can we just close this thread... Senator is about to call in the dogs!!lol
No, I think I'll just give up caring about what happens to new riders.
Kinda sad how all the rides have been going lately.

I learned and listened intently to guys that have ridden more than most people here have been alive. I just want to keep people safe by passing on some knowledge, but hey no one has died in awhile so we must be okay right? That seems to be the blindly optimistic attitude lately.

Do what you guys want. I won't intervene anymore. No sense in appeasing the noobs I guess.
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No, I think I'll just give up caring about what happens to new riders.
Kinda sad how all the rides have been going lately.

I learned and listened intently to guys that have ridden more than most people here have been alive. I just want to keep people safe by passing on some knowledge, but hey no one has died in awhile so we must be okay right? That seems to be the blindly optimistic attitude lately.

Do what you guys want. I won't intervene anymore. No sense in appeasing the noobs I guess.
I was following the thread and this second advanced group seemed like it was for me, I've never had any teaching other than, "go round this bend and go round those cones" at msf.

Advanced noob ride?

I've always been one to learn a lot from teachers coaches and instructors. That stuff helps. just seeking the means without going to the track.
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tired of reading all of this. someone please PM me the clif notes.
Basically...

1) Make the rules and STICK TO IT, set the tone early. Donn't be afraid to enforece the rules

2)If it is meant to be an educational NOOB RIDE (vs. noob paced), make sure to keep the ratio of helpers to noobs close to 1:1. Have lots of stops so as to give and receive feedback.

3)To keep away big groups, use threads to gauge interest, and pick the noobs who want to ride, then PM them the location

4)Have the helpers picked out beforehand and make sure everyone is on the same page

5)Get (or update if there is already one) a glossary of accepted MH terms (vs dictionary defined)

6)Maybe label rides that follow Senator's How To (maybe he could update with whatever he feels is a good idea from here) a Senator or SLR approved Noob Ride.

7)Don't let this thread make noobs feel like noob rides aren't fun because they definitely are

Feel free to chime in if I missed anything or said something wrong. Also, if any noobs are reading this, do speak up because you are the guys/gals we are trying to help

If any1 feels like this is a dumb thread, you can just say so, I could care less what strangers think of me, just like you could probably care less about noobs
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#2. Let the man set up his own rides and how he words it.
For that matter, let anyone set up a ride that invites noobs and then possibly that noob unknowingly get himself over his head following the pack on the first turn.


There was a lot of swinging and long distance in this thread.

So much ego too with a lot of these riders and their skills...Jesus.

These rides are for fun, with a high focus on safety, the best rides are not the fastest. They are the ones where we all hang around, have some laughs, share some knowledge, and most important, we all go home on our bikes to our family, just like when we left in the morning.
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Yeah. Let the man set up his own ride. There doesnt need to be policing by the resident track stars.
I mean i envisioned he would get noobs to practice countersteering at psl or 10mph abpve it. Which is good practice. Anyways i was truly looking forward to his insight.

Again. Motorcyclists are responsible for themselves.
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Yeah. Let the man set up his own ride. There doesnt need to be policing by the resident track stars.
I mean i envisioned he would get noobs to practice countersteering at psl or 10mph abpve it. Which is good practice. Anyways i was truly looking forward to his insight.

Again. Motorcyclists are responsible for themselves.
Jesus man, you just had to add your little jab at track people, Didn't you?

Let me guess, next you are going to bring up the importance of rear braking?
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Jesus man, you just had to add your little jab at track people, Didn't you?

Let me guess, next you are going to bring up the importance of rear braking?
why don't you guys start to pm each other instead of messing up CBR_TRANS' thread???
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For that matter, let anyone set up a ride that invites noobs and then possibly that noob unknowingly get himself over his head following the pack on the first turn.

There was a lot of swinging and long distance in this thread.
So much ego too with a lot of these riders and their skills...Jesus.

These rides are for fun, with a high focus on safety, the best rides are not the fastest. They are the ones where we all hang around, have some laughs, share some knowledge, and most important, we all go home on our bikes to our family, just like when we left in the morning.
No one is going to listen man. That's the old way of doing it.
Just wait till we have another KEM, Karthick, or worse Wesley Combs (RIP).
Then all of a sudden EVERYONE will be pushing safety again when they see a guy with his chest cavity crushed by a trailer, or someone not breathing in front of them.
We only need to be reactive, instead of proactive with the community.
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Yeah. Let the man set up his own ride. There doesnt need to be policing by the resident track stars.
I mean i envisioned he would get noobs to practice countersteering at psl or 10mph abpve it. Which is good practice. Anyways i was truly looking forward to his insight.

Again. Motorcyclists are responsible for themselves.
Exactly. Darwin theory.
If I put you in a situation you can't handle....your fault.
Don't get the noobs to practice anything though, that would be just appeasing them and they are responsible for themselves.

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Stop appeasing the noobs
Everyone get on the moderately noob Rossi ride! I'm in.
Rear braking into every turn!
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There goes the resident expert.

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There goes the resident expert.
Where, I thought it was you man?!

I need help with my counter-steering, and I hang off the seat too much when I turn, can you help me?

My head is almost near my mirror!
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