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Old 07-09-2012, 07:55 AM   #81
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i agree w/ the others that the OP is an idiot

i disagree w/ others about engine braking, IMO when your stopping for life and death vs track where you're essentially only slowing down squeezing the clutch takes the engine and eventaully lugging the engine out of the equation, and you can concentrate on braking ft and rear. when clutch engaged you now have to take concentration away from braking and putting it on the clutch side also.
On a bike with shltty brakes, especially when loaded down, engine braking makes a HUGE difference in deceleration.
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To add to what RACERX was saying.....Emergency braking is a good thing to practice in a parking lot or down a well paved road with light traffic. Obviously don't do this if anyone is behind you. Start slow and work your way up. Anyways, whether you do it with or without engine braking, you will learn the limits of your motorcycles braking abilities, and be comfortable having to grab a lot of brakes in an emergency situation. Honestly, unless you've practiced, you may find it hard to engine brake in an emergency situation. Your first reaction will most likely be to pull in hard on the front brake and gradually apply pressure to the rear brake without locking it up. If you have little experience engine braking in an emergency situation, it's probably best you focus on braking as to not distract you and possibly increase your stopping distance.

That being said, having ABS is pretty nice for street riding


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That being said, having ABS is pretty nice for street riding

Yea it is
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No, it is called short shifting. Pull in the clutch before you come to a complete stop in 1st gear. The only time I use my clutch is at a complete stop.
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Old 07-09-2012, 08:42 AM   #86
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do you know if it retards teh engine while decelling if the clutch is engaged?
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do you know if it retards teh engine while decelling if the clutch is engaged?
On Hondas the ABS doesn't care what the engine or the clutch is doing and affects neither
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so the engine would eventually stall out?
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No, it is called short shifting. Pull in the clutch before you come to a complete stop in 1st gear. The only time I use my clutch is at a complete stop.
Always been impressed with a rider that can go through the gears without a clutch. Ihave tried a few times and have it up.
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so the engine would eventually stall out?
yep, sure would, not unlike a manual shift car
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No, it is called short shifting. Pull in the clutch before you come to a complete stop in 1st gear. The only time I use my clutch is at a complete stop.
I use it, but not often out of 100 shifts prolly like 30 times..
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i agree w/ the others that the OP is an idiot

i disagree w/ others about engine braking, IMO when your stopping for life and death vs track where you're essentially only slowing down squeezing the clutch takes the engine and eventaully lugging the engine out of the equation, and you can concentrate on braking ft and rear. when clutch engaged you now have to take concentration away from braking and putting it on the clutch side also.
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Old 07-09-2012, 02:16 PM   #93
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Maybe you were DTPS and it just now pulled out infront of you?
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Always been impressed with a rider that can go through the gears without a clutch. Ihave tried a few times and have it up.
When there is no posative, or negative load on the drive train it will slip into gear with very little pressure. Every bike is differant. When I up shift I roll off the throttle a little bit. When down shifting, burp the throttle just a tad, and press down on the shifter unless it is reversed.
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Always been impressed with a rider that can go through the gears without a clutch. Ihave tried a few times and have it up.
My clutch cable is broke (waiting for the new to come in Wednes.) and I've been having to start it up in first. The only thing it's stopping me from doing is wheelies
Still ride everyday...
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My clutch cable is broke (waiting for the new to come in Wednes.) and I've been having to start it up in first. The only thing it's stopping me from doing is wheelies
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My clutch cable is broke (waiting for the new to come in Wednes.) and I've been having to start it up in first. The only thing it's stopping me from doing is wheelies
Still ride everyday...
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Old 07-09-2012, 11:16 PM   #100
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My clutch cable is broke (waiting for the new to come in Wednes.) and I've been having to start it up in first. The only thing it's stopping me from doing is wheelies
Still ride everyday...
So do you stall the engine every time you come to a stop, and then start the engine when you're ready to take off again?

(Or did I just get trolled.. )
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