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Old 01-13-2007, 10:16 PM   #21
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get whatever you want. just have respect for it. i started on a 900. my buddy started on a busa, first bike. just respect it.
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I would say go **** yourself but then again I'm sure you're already doing that.
man your too funny. i laugh with every post you make it's hilarious. all you do is talk s*** and never have anything to say to back it up.
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FWIW, until you've got a few miles under your belt, I wouldn't recommend riding with a passenger.
if your going to listen to anyone on this board. Patrick is one of them. He knows his stuff and is very informative.
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a ex 250 would take both of you to well over 100. just admit it's not cool looking enough for you. i don't give a get a busa or a 1000 and off yourself.

Why would you say something like that? Looks are not my main focus neway. I havent done anything to you so please relax and chill with the OFF yourself thing......or just LEAVE ME ALONE, I havent wished harm on you or yours so please dont do it to me.
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Ryan, how about giving this some thought...

get your basic gear, sign and take the MSF... see how you do,
talk to the instructor about what your looking for in a first bike
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Ryan, how about giving this some thought...

get your basic gear, sign and take the MSF... see how you do,
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man your too funny. i laugh with every post you make it's hilarious. all you do is talk s*** and never have anything to say to back it up.
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Lol you recommend a zzr600 as a first bike as if it's a novice bike yet I could take that bike and make you look like and on your race replica r6.

yep zzr600 it's a novice machine let me tell ya.

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if your going to listen to anyone on this board. Patrick is one of them. He knows his stuff and is very informative.
yep you sure showed you shouldn't be listened to with the zzr600 i a great novice bike comment.

Poeple can listen to me i won't steer them wrong. ex250 ftw.
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Lol you recommend a zzr600 as a first bike as if it's a novice bike yet I could take that bike and make you look like and on your race replica r6.

yep zzr600 it's a novice machine let me tell ya.

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HAHA again your making yourself look like an A****** . you know your right, the zzr (aka zx6r) back in it's day was one of the best race bikes out there. i dont deny that. and it's still a dominant machine by standards yes. but it's really a good beginner novice bike. it (zzr600) along with the r6-s. they are both great race bikes and were the best back a few years ago. but now times have changes and so has technology. So by today's standards they are detuned a little bit and more user friendly. so think what you want. but if you can't put up then shut up
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HAHA again your making yourself look like an A****** . you know your right, the zzr (aka zx6r) back in it's day was one of the best race bikes out there. i dont deny that. and it's still a dominant machine by standards yes. but it's really a good beginner novice bike. it (zzr600) along with the r6-s. they are both great race bikes and were the best back a few years ago. but now times have changes and so has technology. So by today's standards they are detuned a little bit and more user friendly. so think what you want. but if you can't put up then shut up
so with that logic since rossi's nsr500 was a 2000 model it is a noob bike i mean since it's older that automatically means it's detuned.

wait even better a 1999 r1 is a great noob bike because according to today's 1000's it's suddenly user friendly. c'mon let's be smart about this. there's nothing detuned about the r6s or the zzr600 they are both still the same as when they dropped new. but once again in your opinion since they are old they automatically qualify as a novice bike. 5 years from now you brand spanking new r6 will be a novice bike. :laughing6
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I wanted to keep the bike a lil longer not just have to trade up in a year. Also wanted something with a lil more top speed than 115 or 130, and prefered the inline four. Hoping for the sportbike styling as well with the lower handle bars. Any downfalls to the zzr600?
Just get whatever the you want and can afford. You're question are pointless because you seem to already have your mind made up. You can't afford what you want and you dont want what you can afford.
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Ryan, Ulric gave some good advice. Everyone has their own input as you have seen. Nobody is intentionally trying to put you in harms way. Here are a few key points that the board generally tries to enforce.
1. MSF
2. Proper gear
3. Start slow, forget peer pressure

Ok, so you are 245 and your girl is 140. As it was said before, you have a while to go before you should be packing. BTW, Packing means having a passenger. Pillion= passenger (usually a Euro thing). Riding "two up", self explanatory, with a passenger.
In addition to 1, 2, and 3 above, KNOW THIS; NOBODY who's opinion is worth a will ever judge you by what you ride. IF somebody gives you anything besides constructive critisism or genuine riding tips, ignore them. Most people on here are tired of the bad reputation sportbikes have. We are tired of seeing "Bad wreck tonight", "GSXR down", etc etc. We want people to learn to ride motorcycles properly. We want you to respect an SV650 or the new Kawi 650.
Look into a used Yamaha yzf600. If you can find a clean one, they are good looking bikes that will do what you need and they can be found cheap. The first bike is a tool for growth, not something to be showboating on. I know it is exciting to think about bringing your girl out on the bike, for both you and her. Trust me, you taking your time to be a steady and confident rider before you ride 2 up with your girl and it will be a wise investment. She will appreciate it a whole lot more. The amount of difference 140 lbs placed high on the back of a bike makes is significant!!! YOU DON'T WANT THAT AS A NEW RIDER. I can go on and on with stories, examples, and reasons why you shouldn't buy a new gsxr/r-6/cbr/zx 600. I don't need to. You have too many years of combined experience, both riding and in life, on this board already telling you to take it easy and buy within your means. Everyone is just trying to help, if it seems otherwise it's probably because of the guy who bought the 50th aniversary R-1 for a first bike and wrecked, pretty bad, in a week or two just a couple months back. He was really worried about having enough power too. Put pride aside, buy the "underpowered" bike everyone is suggesting, grow with it, and be a better rider for it in the end.

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HAHA again your making yourself look like an A****** . you know your right, the zzr (aka zx6r) back in it's day was one of the best race bikes out there. i dont deny that. and it's still a dominant machine by standards yes. but it's really a good beginner novice bike. it (zzr600) along with the r6-s. they are both great race bikes and were the best back a few years ago. but now times have changes and so has technology. So by today's standards they are detuned a little bit and more user friendly. so think what you want. but if you can't put up then shut up
I have a de-tuned bike? .. the n00bish R6!!! :BangHead:
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wow u sure dont ride it like its de-tuned:laughing6
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It's a monster between the legs!!!

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sounds funny didn't it. yet he wants to say i don't know what i'm talking about.
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so with that logic since rossi's 2000 nsr500 is a noob bike i mean since it's older that automatically means it's detuned.

wait even better a 1999 r1 is a great noob bike because according to today's 1000's it's suddenly user friendly. c'mon let's be smart about this. there's nothing detuned about the r6s or the zzr600 they are both still the same as when they dropped new. but once again in your opinion since they are old they automatically qualify as a novice bike. 5 years from now you brand spanking new r6 will be a novice bike. :laughing6
ok how about this when you learn to read. go pick a magazine and read all the specs about previous model years to current models. obviously you don't so i guess this conversation is over till then. so happy hunting for imformation. and good luck trying to make yourself look intelligent. it was a nice effort
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Ryan, Ulric gave some good advice. Everyone has their own input as you have seen. Nobody is intentionally trying to put you in harms way. Here are a few key points that the board generally tries to enforce.
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Look into a used Yamaha yzf600. If you can find a clean one, they are good looking bikes that will do what you need and they can be found cheap. The first bike is a tool for growth, not something to be showboating on. I know it is exciting to think about bringing your girl out on the bike, for both you and her. Trust me, you taking your time to be a steady and confident rider before you ride 2 up with your girl and it will be a wise investment. She will appreciate it a whole lot more. The amount of difference 140 lbs placed high on the back of a bike makes is significant!!! YOU DON'T WANT THAT AS A NEW RIDER. I can go on and on with stories, examples, and reasons why you shouldn't buy a new gsxr/r-6/cbr/zx 600. I don't need to. You have too many years of combined experience, both riding and in life, on this board already telling you to take it easy and buy within your means. Everyone is just trying to help, if it seems otherwise it's probably because of the guy who bought the 50th aniversary R-1 for a first bike and wrecked, pretty bad, in a week or two just a couple months back. He was really worried about having enough power too. Put pride aside, buy the "underpowered" bike everyone is suggesting, grow with it, and be a better rider for it in the end.

Sorry for any typo's, I've been drinking.

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prolly need to cut the guy some slack... I think he may be trynig to listen but may be a bit of information overload somewhat too.

He's got the bug, and we all know how evil that siren's call can be.
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