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Old 06-26-2012, 11:23 PM   #1
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Old 06-26-2012, 11:46 PM   #2
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I don't know how, but somehow this was the view at 7PM.

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We LITERALLY threw down our tools and rolled the bikes into the trailer. The 250 had been for one short ride down the road before the rear brakes were working. That short ride suggested that the clutch plates might be shot and that I REALLY needed rear brakes. The CR125 had been started but not moved under its own power yet and the brief running had shown a lot of exhaust leak at the head. Frankie, my CR80/CRF100 custom conversion bike had new sprokets but an old chain thanks to a mix up as to which donor bike to buy the chain for, and had only ever been ridden in my backyard after I built it from the ground up. Our packing consisted of 20 minutes of frantically running around the house getting together. We were short sleep and Ashley was almost incoherent from working 40 hours in the last two days to get everything done as well as work on something to make money on.

You could say we weren't exactly prepared...


So how did the weekend turn out?

The weekend was an unbelievable success, especially considering how it started Friday night. I fully expected that one to all of our untested bikes were going to break down and we were going to be borrowing my friend's bikes by mid day Saturday.

Friday night we set up camp. I went out for a quick test ride on the 250 in the dark. The clutch seemed to be slipping, but without any light and given that I was riding around on the park roads instead of a track, it was hard to tell how much was wheel spin and how much was clutch. Fortunately the brakes seemed to be working fine despite the fact that I finished bleeding the rear only minutes before the bike was loaded. The CR125 also went for a test ride. It seemed to be working as well, however it really needed a long hard run up to clear out the engine and in the dark with only a tiny bit of background light on unfamiliar slick gravel was not the place to be doing that. Amazingly, frankie, the conversion bike seemed to be working great as we used it as a runabout pit bike while getting set in.

The next day we got up and hit the tracks. Somehow everything on the 250 was working well. The clutch did turn out to have some slip, but it wasn't so bad that I couldn't put power down and it never got worse. The brakes continued working, and somehow the blown suspension we never had time to fix actually wasn't horrible. Moreover, the 250 kicked . This is the first 250 four stroke any of our riding group has had and we all fell in love with the bike. The engine with its new parts started up within 4-5 kicks at the beginning of the day and in one to two after that. I rode the bike for five sessions on Saturday and another three Sunday and never turned a wrench on it once. Ashley's engine work and my brake rebuild worked magic and the bike just ran.

For the curious, the CR125 also ran the entire weekend. Its rebuild work had consisted of fresh fork seals, a rebuilt cooling system, new chain and sprockets, and cosmetic work. The replaced parts worked great, however it was troubled with a leaking fuel line early on which required replacement tubing and the fact that the braking system was completely useless. The front line had been bled which seemed to be fine, however the pads proved to be completely gone and ineffective on the track. I wasn't even aware that the rear brakes were not bled and didn't work. Despite these problems and missing radiator shrouds which (were literally forgotten when we left) the bike was ridden all weekend.

Frankie, the CR80/XR100 conversion bike ran all weekend as well. The kickstand had to be removed as it interfered with the chain slack and the back half of the exhaust broke off twice. The first time due to a lost bolt on the muffler support, the second time (after being repaired with hose clamps and metal from two red bull cans) when the entire hanger broke off due to tack welds that were forgotten about and never fully welded. Despite the lost muffler we rode the out of it for the entire weekend.

Unfortunately, for some reason, the only shot I have of me is this one:

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I'm the guy on the left of the picture. Ashley is in the center peeking out over the whoop on her CR125. I do have a gopro shot of 1.5 laps we made which I'll post later. Its not all that impressive though, I was riding in the back of a pack of my slower friends, and I'm slow as out on the track as it is.

I'll try and scare up some more photos and will have links to videos of the weekend shortly.

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Old 06-26-2012, 11:54 PM   #3
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So now what? Well, I'm in love with the bike, that's for sure. I was judging if I was going to sell or keep the bike based on this weekend and it is a keeper.

Currently my plans, in order are to fix the fork seals (already have the parts), put new clutch plates in, try and bleed the front brake some more (its a little spongey even though it is effective), true up the front wheel (oh yeah, I forgot to mention that it turned out to be quite wobbly when we rode it), replace the horribly sun faded plastics and put some new graphics on.

Oh yeah, and ride the out of it! We're already planning on heading back for another weekend of fun if we can get it together for this weekend.
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Old 06-27-2012, 12:03 AM   #4
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Fun photos from the weekend:

Gopro still from Ashley in the air on the 125

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Some swingarm fun

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The center of attention for the weekend. This was my buddy David's first motocross weekend. Here he is all geared up on another friend's CRF230. He didn't do too bad for his first weekend on the track!

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Ashley and her 125.

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The hilight of the weekend was no doubt the mini battle between Stephen on his XR100 and Nick on Frankie, the CR/XR conversion bike. Skill was on Stephen's side, but Frankie is designed for just this kind of jackassery. Full CR80 suspension and frame matched up with a bulletproof and underpowered XR100 motor. Here's some photos of the battle:

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I don't even know how it is possible but here's Nick flat tracking Frankie

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Old 06-27-2012, 12:12 AM   #5
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Looking at the calender, I bought the bike on the 7th and finished it on the 22 so 15 total days of ownership. Of that, the work on the bike was completely done in about four sessions. One afternoon tearing the bike and engine down, another evening figuring out the case issues and doing the bottom end re-assembly, another evening putting the top end on and installing it back in the bike and a final long afternoon bleeding the brakes, putting on the new chain and sprockets, and generally putting the back back together.
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More pictures...

Here's the toy hauler we slept and cooled off in all weekend with all the bikes out front

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It didn't photograph well but I had my projector set up and we were inside playing forza 4 and trials on the xbox after dinner both nights.

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Our fix for frankie after it lost its exhaust the first time. Ironically the lost exhaust the next time had nothing to do with the fix which worked fine

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girl you're like a surgeon operating on these bikes.
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Ashley is a boss and I wouldn't do half of what I do without her. I have a better feel for fabrication and creating stuff from scratch, but when it comes time to do something tedious with a million parts that have to come apart and go together perfectly, she's the person for the job. I can't thank her enough for the time she put into my engine!
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Wow, it's a small world. I've spent a lot of hours at your house and in the garage working on dirt bikes there. A friend of mine used to live there and he would also search craigslist all the time looking for dirt bikes that needed work. Then rebuild the motor, transmission or whatever it needed. Usually he would ride for a little while then sell it to make some money and move on to the next project.
He got foreclosed on about a year ago. I rode by 2 days later and the bank already had a crew working on painting the house and getting it cleaned up. Figured it would sell pretty quick, in a decent, quiet neighborhood.
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^ wow, really small world. We almost didn't get this house, first because there was already a contract on it. Second, when that fell through there were so many offers on it. It is a nice neighborhood and the house is in decent shape. Something about this place must attract motorhead types since we do the same thing.
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Amazing pictures, the toy hauler is now complete with an xBox! Badassery

Small world for sure.
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That DOES explain the clutch plates and case side that were out in the remnants of a burn pile in the back yard...

That is hilarious. What are the chances that not only does someone else who does the same thing move in, but that I'm on a forum with someone who used to hang out over here.
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Cool pics!
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He also did side jobs at home in the garage painting cars to make some extra money. Looks like y'all do silk screening or something similar on the side too?
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lol, and that explains the paint that was on the garage floor.

Yeah, we do silk screening in the garage.
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He also did side jobs at home in the garage painting cars to make some extra money. Looks like y'all do silk screening or something similar on the side too?
You should have seen us with the acid trying to remove all the paint gobs on the garage floor before we painted it.

Yup we do screen printing, just picked up an industrial press. Worlds better than the old one!

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That looks cool! You are definitely multi talented.
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Ashley just put together this video of the engine coming apart that I had forgotten about.


See the engine come apart in less than two minutes!

In other news - I took the 250 out again on the 4th and had my first failure. I got through my first few laps and when I came back Ashley noticed that I had some water weeping from the weep hole on the water pump. I knew that meant that the outer seal was going and I was probably out of luck but I wasn't willing to give up easy so I pulled the water pump cover, pulled the impeller and tried to clean up the seal some, but in the end it only made it fail completely.

In the three laps I did make I came to the conclusion that no two ways about it - the bike needed a clutch. If you got on the throttle slowly you could get up to speed and pull fine, but every time I came out of a corner and gave it the beans, it just spun up the clutch instantly in 2nd and 3rd. My day ended soon enough that it didn't really matter but it still put the clutch on the short list of things that need attention.

Currently I have a new set of clutch plates soaking in oil for install this weekend. I also have a new case saver since mine is missing, no doubt from the original chain break. I was also supposed to have a new shifter spindle to replace my whacked somewhat straight one, but the new one came in with a little bit of a bend to it. I'm working with the seller currently to get that sorted out.

I'll keep updating this thread as the bike progresses.
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