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Old 06-13-2012, 10:28 AM   #41
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That's something your mom tells you when you're actually just ugly or fat and that's why the other kids pick on you.


The article even states that the majority of riders will never come close to the true performance capabilities of any of the bikes tested.


Can you be happy because the bike you like won the road test portion of a subjective magazine article? Sure.


Should anyone else really give a ? Probably not.
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I don't WANT to ride a BMW. I'm glad you love their bikes so much but you don't need to work so hard to convince others to like them too.
Agreed. We're not bashing it, Im sure its a great bike....just not for me.
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Old 06-13-2012, 10:33 AM   #42
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most of the stuff isnt as cheap as teh stuff so no need.
Cost determines need? That makes no sense at all.
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Old 06-13-2012, 10:36 AM   #43
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it out performs my gsxr on braking with stock brakes and horse power completely stock.
couldn't the same be said of any 2011 litre bike vs your '09 gsxr? Off the top of my head I know the ZX10, RSV4, and 1198 make more power on paper.
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The reason for the headlights is because the highbeam weighs less then the low beam, so they didnt need a big light. The fairings are different on the sides because of the cooling needed for each side of the engine.

The bike took function over form on things, but it worked out and makes it unique.
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In talking with Andy from MV of Houston most European bikes tend to over-heat! When he explained why it made sense. These bikes are made in cooler climates in Italy and Germany and cannot deal with our heat and humidity as much! Now any bike can overheat in our summer heat; but do these bikes tend to over-heat more frequently compared to bikes?
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couldn't the same be said of any 2011 litre bike vs your '09 gsxr? Off the top of my head I know the ZX10, RSV4, and 1198 make more power on paper.
Possibly, I haven't ridden the other bikes. This thread was about BMW putting the smack down on other bikes, my gsxr has all the top of the line after market parts you can put on it, and the BMW stock is there if not better.

And off the top of my head the BMW put the smack down on all the bikes you listed, but I'm not here to argue just letting everyone know my comparison.
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In talking with Andy from MV of Houston most European bikes tend to over-heat! When he explained why it made sense. These bikes are made in cooler climates in Italy and Germany and cannot deal with our heat and humidity as much! Now any bike can overheat in our summer heat; but do these bikes tend to over-heat more frequently compared to bikes?

Japan has a pretty mild climate too.

I'd wager that European machines are designed with a stronger focus on RIDING than sitting at stoplights, and thusly overheat. Having ridden several different euro bikes on track...I've seen no evidence that they run any hotter in that environ (the assumed intended one) than their japanese counterparts.
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The reason for the headlights is because the highbeam weighs less then the low beam, so they didnt need a big light. The fairings are different on the sides because of the cooling needed for each side of the engine.

The bike took function over form on things, but it worked out and makes it unique.
The real reason is: BMW just wants it to look distinctive. They've been doing asymmetric headlights for a long time, and not one of them is what I would call classically beautiful. But you can pick it out of a crowd easily and tell it's a BMW even if it's blazing by at speed.

All this "my litre bike will spank your litre bike" makes little practical difference on the track, as the smallest difference in rider competency will overwhelm any performance difference in any of these bikes. On the street, with the average Biaggi-wannabe?? Ferggettaboutit!

But... these bikes are made for guys that love to talk smack. For that, the BMW definitely has a leg up... for now.

Me, I bought mine to feed my midlife crisis, not to see who can squirt his juice the farthest. I couldn't care less if it is the slowest of the litre bikes. Because it probably is.
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Old 06-13-2012, 02:18 PM   #51
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The real reason is: BMW just wants it to look distinctive. They've been doing asymmetric headlights for a long time, and not one of them is what I would call classically beautiful. But you can pick it out of a crowd easily and tell it's a BMW even if it's blazing by at speed.

All this "my litre bike will spank your litre bike" makes little practical difference on the track, as the smallest difference in rider competency will overwhelm any performance difference in any of these bikes. On the street, with the average Biaggi-wannabe?? Ferggettaboutit!

But... these bikes are made for guys that love to talk smack. For that, the BMW definitely has a leg up... for now.

Me, I bought mine to feed my midlife crisis, not to see who can squirt his juice the farthest. I couldn't care less if it is the slowest of the litre bikes. Because it probably is.
There you go talking all sensible and stuff....
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The real reason is: BMW just wants it to look distinctive. They've been doing asymmetric headlights for a long time, and not one of them is what I would call classically beautiful. But you can pick it out of a crowd easily and tell it's a BMW even if it's blazing by at speed.

All this "my litre bike will spank your litre bike" makes little practical difference on the track, as the smallest difference in rider competency will overwhelm any performance difference in any of these bikes. On the street, with the average Biaggi-wannabe?? Ferggettaboutit!

But... these bikes are made for guys that love to talk smack. For that, the BMW definitely has a leg up... for now.

Me, I bought mine to feed my midlife crisis, not to see who can squirt his juice the farthest. I couldn't care less if it is the slowest of the litre bikes. Because it probably is.
do you still have the RSV factory... i loved my 07.. its an amazing bike and comfy as well/
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do you still have the RSV factory... i loved my 07.. its an amazing bike and comfy as well/
Oh yeah. It's my weekend playbike... great for wiping clean the C14 taste, after commuting on it all week.

For me, it's more fun wondering all week what I could do, than actually doing anything with it come weekend. Half of the time, I am too busy to even ride on weekend. It's actually better than way. Every time I do ride it, I'm reminded of just how much I suck... and unworthy of such a fine machine.

It's like a 240Million$ jackpot ticket... better unchecked and kept on daydreaming...

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props to bmw for winning all the shootouts, but still HELLA UGLY
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Well the stock cans on the R1 are hideous...so I upragred to the 2-Brothers Titanium Exhaust with the Juice Box, and K & N air filter. That was around $1400 for parts. Integrated tail light, flush-mount turn signals, license plate kit, ASV levers, R1 gel grips, R1 frame sliders and the R1 cushion seat! All that just to clean the bike up! So add all that up including labor that's around $2500. Almost every R1 owner changes most if not all of the things I mentioned above.
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