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Old 06-11-2012, 09:40 PM   #41
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Makes me want to discourage my friends from learning.. Some of them have asked me to teach them on my bike, and not all of them are the best drivers. Seems hypocritical and conceited to talk them out of it, but inexperienced riders can never truly know the risks. This forum's shown me that there's still so much for me to learn too.

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Old 06-11-2012, 09:53 PM   #42
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Makes me want to discourage my friends from learning.. Some of them have asked me to teach them on my bike, and not all of them are the best drivers. Seems hypocritical and conceited to talk them out of it, but inexperienced riders can never truly know the risks. This forum's shown me that there's still so much for me to learn too.

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Makes me want to discourage my friends from learning.. Some of them have asked me to teach them on my bike, and not all of them are the best drivers. Seems hypocritical and conceited to talk them out of it, but inexperienced riders can never truly know the risks. This forum's shown me that there's still so much for me to learn too.

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Old 06-11-2012, 10:20 PM   #44
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I've even offered to take MSF again with them (assuming they'd allow a licensed rider to sign up).. Have yet to get a solid response on that one. So I just tell them that I don't feel comfortable "teaching".

And I agree w/ learning manual 1st, but one guy in particular, I'm scared enough just riding passenger when he's driving auto. Asians.

P.S. Bevo, you were tearing it up on the HD Saturday. Respect.

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Old 06-11-2012, 10:24 PM   #45
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I've even offered to take MSF again with them (assuming they'd allow a licensed rider to sign up).. Have yet to get a solid response on that one.

And I agree w/ learning manual 1st, but one guy in particular, I'm scared enough just riding passenger when he's driving auto. Asians.

P.S. Bevo, you were tearing it up on the HD Saturday. Respect.
I kept having to look down at my pegs in the turns to make sure they weren't going to drag. Probably not the smartest way to ride on a bike with that crappy suspension and a bicycle tire on the front. Hope to be back on my CBR next week
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Sad...But so stupid...why would you teach someone to ride a bike on the 5th floor. Dumbass.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:59 PM   #47
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:00 PM   #48
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Forgive me if this sounds silly but how does one accidentally grab throttle instead of brake on a motorcycle?

I can understand hitting the wrong pedal on a car but a motorcycle has a brake lever and rear brake pad. I remember reading somewhere that the front brake lever is located where it is because people will naturally roll off the throttle to grab the front brake.
Happens all the time
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What's crazy is that my 2 year old son can operate his throttle on his pw50 then consciously apply his brake to come to a complete stop, that's right 2! Thing is is that I took the time and proper precautions to teach him the RIGHT way to ride a
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RIP, I bet that guy had a scary death and it was unnecessary
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What's crazy is that my 2 year old son can operate his throttle on his pw50 then consciously apply his brake to come to a complete stop, that's right 2! Thing is is that I took the time and proper precautions to teach him the RIGHT way to ride a
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RIP, I bet that guy had a scary death and it was unnecessary
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Forgive me if this sounds silly but how does one accidentally grab throttle instead of brake on a motorcycle?

I can understand hitting the wrong pedal on a car but a motorcycle has a brake lever and rear brake pad. I remember reading somewhere that the front brake lever is located where it is because people will naturally roll off the throttle to grab the front brake.
well, for some people that whole "left hand clutch, right hand throttle AND brake, left foot shift and do all of this while looking ahead" thing is just too much sensory overload.

Most people in a panic situation don't roll off the throttle - they lock it...
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RIP, and holy 200-300 a year????
Yep. Look up car accident statistics. You will just stay home and watch TV. But then, you might choke on a bologna sandwich!
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It helps if the learner has any motorized vehicle experience other than a car with auto tranny.

I've tought some folks how to ride. Starting with a bike without a lot of HP is good, but so is one that sits low and upright. Just the feel of acceleration can be unerving to somebody trying to balance the bike and learning throttle control at the same time. The best learner bike is not a Ninja or CBR 250, which sits rather tall and places a lot of weight on the wrists - compared to a Virago 250 or Suzuki S40.

Best to focus on one thing at a time, and never run along side and yell instructions. You're just adding stress and info-overload. Explain clears up gront and let then go off and try - one thing at a time. First, the feel of letting off the clutch. Then add in the feel of rolling gently on the throttle. So on. Some people need a lot of repetition; others pick it up quick. Those with mountain bike experiences then to do quite well, as the feel of the controls are similar.

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it does sound like a great idea, right? Where better place to learn clutch control than an elevated structure with walls that are 3 feet high. What better for concentration than the fear of falling 60 feet onto concrete.

I'm not very smart, but it looks fishy.
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