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Old 01-08-2007, 11:33 PM   #21
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Old 01-09-2007, 01:34 AM   #22
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I gotta do the fiberglass on my bike now. Its sharkskinz with no major rash but it has been lowsided a couple of times. I plan on using west system epoxies. Heard nothing but good things about their stuff. Anyone here used it? Didn't want to go the bondo route for my filler as I read that its not flexible and prone to cracking when flexed.
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west systems makes excellent resins. i've done a lot of layups with their stuff in the past with good results.
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Old 01-09-2007, 02:06 AM   #24
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west systems makes excellent resins. i've done a lot of layups with their stuff in the past with good results.
What filler did you use to make your "putty" to fill in the cracks on the fairings? They have low density, high density, and and a few others. I just want something thats gonna be easy to sand and not hard to work with.
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What filler did you use to make your "putty" to fill in the cracks on the fairings? They have low density, high density, and and a few others. I just want something thats gonna be easy to sand and not hard to work with.
so to be honest...i've never used it to fix motorcycle fairings. i used it for several years in college to build cars using layups of carbon, carbon-kevlar, kevlar, and fiberglass. we used the 105 resin with either the 206 or 209 hardener depending on the size of the layup and how complex the mold was. we used mainly fairing fillers as we were looking to shape/smooth whenever we messed with fillers. for 'structural' epoxy needs we used henkel loctite products both filled and unfilled. they proved to be much stronger and tougher overall.

if you're looking for a filler for fairing cracks...go with a fairing filler. fairings are no where near structural loads and don't need a high density filler by any means. i think we used both the 407 and 410 fillers. to be honest, i don't remember the difference between the two. and secondly, you are probably going to be using so little of it that it doesn't even matter. the weight difference between even no filler and the lightest filler on the final weight will be minimal.

overall, my feeling is that most of the skill is in the prep work and technique of a layup...not in the actual epoxy brand used. 90% of the time we vaccum bagged or autoclaved all our layups to get the best bonding we could, esp for structural parts. for mainly cosmetic or aerodynamic pieces, we would even use the bondo brand epoxy from walmart in a pinch....it worked alright...just wasn't as consistent as the premium epoxy, wasn't as friendly to work with (much stickier) and smelled terrible when mixed in large batches if i rember correctly.
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What filler did you use to make your "putty" to fill in the cracks on the fairings? They have low density, high density, and and a few others. I just want something thats gonna be easy to sand and not hard to work with.
to answer your question...high density fillers will be more like sanding hard wood or maybe a little tougher. low density fillers will be more like sanding balsa. typical walmart bondo is probably somewhere in between the two.
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Looks good!

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well personally im gald you are finished... i have not spent much time with you in the past two weeks...
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Hey all things said, I think you did a good job considering that you have never done it before. If you get the right tools for the job, it makes it 100% easier to do. Some good primer like PPG K200 would fill in those imperfections for the most part. You would need to wetsand it and then the sanding scratches and pin holes would disappear.
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OK the *free* work is over, how much just to lend a helping hand for me to get rid of my Sanchez Paint Scheme?

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I may invest in some of the proper tools such as the right sanding tools, thats the most important tool in my opinion, as everything else is like melted cheese. The sanding and shaping is hard. I may get some spot putty and play with my glass and see just how much work it proves to be to fix all the dings and dangs.

I am happy to help any of you guys with your stuff, as always and like everything else, i like to help people out. just get with me and Teresa to make sure that we are free for a day and you can come over and we'll work on it, i'm no pro but, i'll at least get you headed in the right direction.
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Old 01-09-2007, 09:56 AM   #32
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Hey all things said, I think you did a good job considering that you have never done it before. If you get the right tools for the job, it makes it 100% easier to do. Some good primer like PPG K200 would fill in those imperfections for the most part. You would need to wetsand it and then the sanding scratches and pin holes would disappear.
i'd love to go and hang out with Tom for a day and learn as much as i can, i know he has the tools, maybe i can sneak some in my pocket on my way out:topsecret don't tell him my plan tho.

, I would need about $5000 to get started it seems like, a Compressor large enough to handle some air tools and all the air tools of course. The sprayer, and who knows what all type of paint supplies are involved, I guess i'm doing the easy way now.
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Looks real good. One thing though, what's with you and the pinstipes. IMO it looks better without them
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Looks real good. One thing though, what's with you and the pinstipes. IMO it looks better without them
i agree, on Dereks it looked really good without pinstripes but my problem is having the two different colors meeting properly at the same thickness. I may try something on mine that ive been thinking about. I have my set of R1 plastics still and may experiment on those
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i agree, on Dereks it looked really good without pinstripes but my problem is having the two different colors meeting properly at the same thickness. I may try something on mine that ive been thinking about. I have my set of R1 plastics still and may experiment on those

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I went ahead and got some spot putty last night and started on my own glass, it will look tons better if i decide to do a second run with it, it a little time consuming tho, i used the cheaper stuff so that i wouldn't have to mix with the hardener and it would allow me to get more done with minimal loss of putty, i know it is prolly not gonna hold up near as well but, im basically just trying it out to see the difference. It feels much better when you run your fingers across it, much smoother.. hopefully the weekend will provide us with at least one nice day in order for me to get some paint shot on it. Tony gave me some pointers on doing the two colors without using the pinstripes so, I'm gonna try that out and see how it works.
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