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Old 01-10-2007, 09:34 AM   #21
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In the state of Texas, you are NOT required to have turn signals on a motorcycle, whether it originally had them or not is irrelevant.

If they are on the bike, they must all work.
Please post your source for this...
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Old 01-10-2007, 02:34 PM   #22
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Texas Department of Public Safety - Motorcycle Safety Unit

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Old 01-10-2007, 02:49 PM   #23
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Texas Department of Public Safety - Motorcycle Safety Unit

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Texas Motorcycle Laws (2005-2006 edition)
That's why I don't get what you're saying. Section 547.324.of the Texas Motorcycle Laws clearly states turn signal lamps are required. :dontknow:

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/msb/txmclaws.htm#Chapter 2

Reads just like this:
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TURN SIGNAL LAMPS REQUIRED.

(a)Exceptas provided by Subsection (b), a motor vehicle, trailer, semitrailer, or pole trailer shall be equipped with electric turn signal lamps that indicate the operator's intent to turn by displaying flashing lights to the front and rear of a vehicle or combination of vehicles and on that side of the vehicle or combination toward which the turn is to be made.

* * * * *

(c) Turn signal lamps:

(1) shall be mounted at the same level and spaced as widely apart as practicable on the front and on the rear of the vehicle; and

(2) may be included as a part of another lamp on the vehicle.

(d) A turn signal lamp shall emit:

(1) a white or amber light, or a color between white and amber, if the lamp is mounted on the front of the vehicle; or

(2) a red or amber light, or a color between red and amber, if the lamp is mounted on the rear of the vehicle.

(e) A turn signal lamp must be visible in normal sunlight at a distance of:

(1) at least 500 feet from the front and rear of the vehicle if the vehicle is at least 80 inches wide; and

(2) at least 300 feet from the front and rear of the vehicle if the vehicle is less than 80 inches wide.
AMA website says that they are required on cycles made in 1960 or newer...
http://home.ama-cycle.org/amaccess/l...t.asp?state=tx

At least it's very clear what the real law is. :BangHead:
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, and on the same TxDPS website (in my post above) I found this:
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Texas Law requires the following equipment on Motorcycles and Motor Driven Cycles:

1. Wheel Assembly
2. Exhaust System
3. Tail Lamp (1)
4. Stop Lamp (1)
5. License Plate Lamp
6. Rear Red Reflector
7. Head Lamp (1)
8. Motorcycle, Serial, or, Vehicle Identification Number
9. Horn
10. Mirror
11. Steering
12. Brakes
13. Tires
No mention of turn signals. Great to have conflicting info on the same sight.

But on another note, those of you guys that were going to ride without your "wheel assembly" you can't. :laughing6
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, and on the same TxDPS website (in my post above) I found this:


No mention of turn signals. Great to have conflicting info on the same sight.

But on another note, those of you guys that were going to ride without your "wheel assembly" you can't. :laughing6
As are most laws. :laughing6
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This is out of subsection 548 which deals with the requirements to have a motorcycle inspected:

Texas Law requires the following equipment on Motorcycles and Motor Driven Cycles:

1. Wheel Assembly
2. Exhaust System
3. Tail Lamp (1)
4. Stop Lamp (1)
5. License Plate Lamp
6. Rear Red Reflector
7. Head Lamp (1)
8. Motorcycle, Serial, or, Vehicle Identification Number
9. Horn
10. Mirror
11. Steering
12. Brakes
13. Tires

As you noted, it does not list turn signals. That's because they are not required.

Section 547.324 lists the requirements that turn signals are expected to meet IF they are on the motorcycle. (Hence the "except as provided by subsection (b)" wording.

In short . . . . . A motorcycle is NOT required to have turn signals, but if they are on the bike, they must work correctly.

This has all been confirmed by Michael Miller, Regional Training Director at the Texas Department of Public Safety - Motorcycle Safety Unit (1-800-292-5787).

Yes, it is confusing, but that's why you should've just taken at face value that I am ALWAYS right........it's a Scorpio thing. :laughing6
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on she subject.... I have never seen anything on how bright your headlight has to be...
Mine is about as bright as a bic lighter. Think I'm good?
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on she subject.... I have never seen anything on how bright your headlight has to be...
Mine is about as bright as a bic lighter. Think I'm good?
your headlight sucks, i bet you could get in trouble for that
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That is why I am asking.... Maybe someone has been through it.
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That is why I am asking.... Maybe someone has been through it.
they are pretty leniant, i got pulled ove on my old zx6 and didnt get into trouble, and my headlight was a flashlight duct taped to the triple
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on she subject.... I have never seen anything on how bright your headlight has to be...
Mine is about as bright as a bic lighter. Think I'm good?

(b) A motorcycle, other than a motor-driven cycle, shall be equipped with multiple-beam lighting equipment that produces:

(1) an uppermost distribution of light that reveals a person or vehicle at a distance of at least 300 feet ahead; and

(2) a lowermost distribution of light that:

(A) reveals a person or vehicle at a distance of at least 150 feet ahead; and

(B) is aimed so that no part of the high-intensity portion of the beam on the motorcycle that is on a straight and level road under any condition of loading projects into the eyes of an approaching vehicle operator
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on she subject.... I have never seen anything on how bright your headlight has to be...
Mine is about as bright as a bic lighter. Think I'm good?
Actually that is also listed on that site:

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(b) A motorcycle, other than a motor-driven cycle, shall be equipped with multiple-beam lighting equipment that produces:

(1) an uppermost distribution of light that reveals a person or vehicle at a distance of at least 300 feet ahead; and

(2) a lowermost distribution of light that:

(A) reveals a person or vehicle at a distance of at least 150 feet ahead; and

(B) is aimed so that no part of the high-intensity portion of the beam on the motorcycle that is on a straight and level road under any condition of loading projects into the eyes of an approaching vehicle operator.
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.. i think I fail all of that... sum hova bia...

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i guess that is why it doesn't have the DOT approval.. on the kit i got..
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i guess that is why it doesn't have the DOT approval.. on the kit i got..
Don't worry Bro! My bike is far from being legal--no mirrors, or turn signals! My head is on a swivel when I'm riding. You won't get jacked with too much unless you the PoPo off or something!!!
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