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Old 05-30-2012, 09:09 AM   #1
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Cruise control ???????

has anyone ever used this before

feedback would be much appreciated....


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Old 05-30-2012, 09:11 AM   #2
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I see it slipping constantly and me off. It would be nice on long rides though.
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Old 05-30-2012, 09:13 AM   #3
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Oh and be ready for a bunch of people to call it unsafe and like that.
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Old 05-30-2012, 09:21 AM   #4
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I see it slipping constantly and me off. It would be nice on long rides though.
yeah thats what i was wondering as well it looks like it would slip too easily... but the link says it doesnt...

yeah i was riding back from San Antonio and thats what made me look for this

and about what people will say if its safe or not i really don't mind/care what they think
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My buddy uses that one and it works. I have the Vista Cruiser on my bike, it was well worth the $35 I spent on it. Heard the throttlemeister is good but it is a little pricy if your not going to use it all the time.
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Old 05-30-2012, 09:30 AM   #6
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Oh and be ready for a bunch of people to call it unsafe and like that.
well, since you said it...

I'll volunteer first. I don't like it, and I wouldn't trust it.

1..just like the brakes, your throttle can have quite a bit of influence on the situation around you. if you need to react to another vehicle on the road, it's nice knowing that you have instant control of the bikes power/speed. having to unlock your throttle first causes a delay in that reaction time.

2..what if the bike goes down and the throttle is still locked "on". what would that do to your motor when it's on it's side?
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well, since you said it...

2..what if the bike goes down and the throttle is still locked "on". what would that do to your motor when it's on it's side?
isn't that what the tip sensors are for? cuts fuel right?
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Old 05-30-2012, 09:32 AM   #8
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well, since you said it...

I'll volunteer first. I don't like it, and I wouldn't trust it.

1..just like the brakes, your throttle can have quite a bit of influence on the situation around you. if you need to react to another vehicle on the road, it's nice knowing that you have instant control of the bikes power/speed. having to unlock your throttle first causes a delay in that reaction time.

2..what if the bike goes down and the throttle is still locked "on". what would that do to your motor when it's on it's side?
1. How much influence is present in top gear? You still have instant control as far as I can tell. There is no UNLOCK. You just turn it.
2. If the bike goes down the tip switch will take care of it.
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1. How much influence is present in top gear? You still have instant control as far as I can tell. There is no UNLOCK. You just turn it.
2. If the bike goes down the tip switch will take care of it.
So this may be my oilfield background talking but the way I see it.. is a self closing throttle is a safety feature that was designed to return the bike to a state of rest in the event the throttle is let go of. The tip over sensor is another safety feature that is a failsafe to complement the self closing throttle. That is a safety feature with backup failsafe system designed to provide a system that effectively mitigates the risk. By removing or bypassing one of the safety mechnisms i.e. bypassing the self closing throttle then you are cutting the reliability of the entire system by half.

That being said... everyone could use a break on their throttle hand during a long trip... but thats what gas stations and bathroom breaks are for imo.
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If it doesnt slip then i say its a pretty awesome tool to have... especially for long rides... and in case i want to lay down and keep my speed obviously...
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So this may be my oilfield background talking but the way I see it.. is a self closing throttle is a safety feature that was designed to return the bike to a state of rest in the event the throttle is let go of. The tip over sensor is another safety feature that is a failsafe to complement the self closing throttle. That is a safety feature with backup failsafe system designed to provide a system that effectively mitigates the risk. By removing or bypassing one of the safety mechnisms i.e. bypassing the self closing throttle then you are cutting the reliability of the entire system by half.

That being said... everyone could use a break on their throttle hand during a long trip... but thats what gas stations and bathroom breaks are for imo.
By your theory your hand is defeating a safety system. Your hand does the same thing. You still have total control. This would/should only be used when appropriate. This IMO,is the least of my concern when riding. One could argue that giving that hand a break would allow for more focus on other important details and safety concerns.
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I used a simple CAT o-ring for years, now I have a Throttlemeister

Next upgrade will be a true electronic cruise.

So far as the one in the link OP posted.. dunno if you could adapt that or not.
My buddy used to do the same thing with his cramp buster.. just spin it around the grip until it rests on top of the brake lever.
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By your theory your hand is defeating a safety system. Your hand does the same thing. You still have total control. This would/should only be used when appropriate. This IMO,is the least of my concern when riding. One could argue that giving that hand a break would allow for more focus on other important details and safety concerns.
I wasn't trying to invalidate anything you said. I agree that giving ones hand a rest is key. Note I said that the self closing nature was a safety feature for if your hand were to leave the grip. In that case the safety feature is designed around having a desired behavior when you are not in complete control of the throttle. I was simply providing a point of view from an engineering standpoint. I work in the oilfield and this is exactly the kind of view point that dominates the thought processes of safety coordinators when explaining proper safety procedures. I honestly prefer having control of my throttle and taking multiple breaks. If you choose to use it I am not saying it is necessarily unsafe as you do have the second line of safety features ie. tipover switch. I simply was pointing out the logical validity of the engineer's intent.
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I wasn't trying to invalidate anything you said. I agree that giving ones hand a rest is key. Note I said that the self closing nature was a safety feature for if your hand were to leave the grip. In that case the safety feature is designed around having a desired behavior when you are not in complete control of the throttle. I was simply providing a point of view from an engineering standpoint. I work in the oilfield and this is exactly the kind of view point that dominates the thought processes of safety coordinators when explaining proper safety procedures. I honestly prefer having control of my throttle and taking multiple breaks. If you choose to use it I am not saying it is necessarily unsafe as you do have the second line of safety features ie. tipover switch. I simply was pointing out the logical validity of the engineer's intent.
I hear ya. Every throttle I can think of has a return spring. Even a lawn mower
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I have a quick release cruise control on my V Star , it is a life saver on long trips , plus I have a throtle boss also .
There is a release switch on the cruise control ,but just a very light touch on the front brake lever releases the cruise control easily.
Not really any safety concerns imo .
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I hear ya. Every throttle I can think of has a return spring. Even a lawn mower
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Just ordered one of these myself and so far it seems to work great and still allows you rest your hand and the throttle to return on its own.
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I have never had one on any bike I have owned...
as with any cruise control device on any vehicle some common sense in its use is required... I have not taken any long trips in the last few years, but I have many times over the years and there a times when having a device like that would be nice...say between san antonio and el paso...long stretches of nothing and not much in the way of traffic to be concernend about. good luck with what ever you buy.
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